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Chronos
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 Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:58 am Post subject: How is the new Welfare laws affecting everyone? |
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I just got notice that the new Chinese government welfare laws means that the school will be taking a huge 11% out of my paycheck every month. Is everyone having this same thing done to them? I think this is a big part of the paycheck gone. Did anyone negotiate a higher pay to compensate?
Aside from this 11% what other taxes, fees, whatever, are normally taken out of our paychecks every month?
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choudoufu
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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nice job, helena! wow! 89 posts already! another 1000 or so
and you'll be considered an "old china hand." jia you, baby!!!
OP......could you tell us where y'all is situated? the "law" has
been passed, but very spottily implemented. so far, few ft's
report deductions based thereupon. according to the law, you
should be able to request the return of 8% (the retirement portion)
when you leave china. i'm not aware of anyone requesting or
receiving a refund.
not collected in hainan yet. in fact, our fao knows nothing of
a social welfare law for foreigners. in fact again, our school
just began deducting income tax from our salaries. said tax is
equivalent to the cost of 5 bubble teas per month. |
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Javelin of Radiance
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: |
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theres a 14 page thread on the same topic right at the top of this forum that would be better for people to continue contributing to. Just an idea  |
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Chronos
Joined: 27 May 2013
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
OP......could you tell us where y'all is situated? the "law" has
been passed, but very spottily implemented. so far, few ft's
report deductions based thereupon. according to the law, you
should be able to request the return of 8% (the retirement portion)
when you leave china. i'm not aware of anyone requesting or
receiving a refund.
not collected in hainan yet. in fact, our fao knows nothing of
a social welfare law for foreigners. in fact again, our school
just began deducting income tax from our salaries. said tax is
equivalent to the cost of 5 bubble teas per month. |
Working in Guangzhou so I guess I am one of the lucky few, or my FAO decided to follow every law to the letter. It just seems like a big chunk now being taken from my pay and it wasn't discussed at any point in the negotiations all summer. Now it comes all the sudden.
I had read about it here previously but since I read also that it wasn't fully implemented I didn't worry about it. I get a free room, but I have to pay utilities, food, water, internet, phone, fun, and so forth. I could have had more fun with that 11%. Annoying last minute turn of events.
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Now it comes all the sudden. |
Darn fickle regulations, always changing .... |
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mike w
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| Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| What welfare laws? |
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Banner41
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| I'm in Guangzhou, I pay it....no big deal...I get an ATM card with money on it every month for paying into it.... |
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MisterButtkins
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Do not pay it. I am in Jilin. |
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JoeThePlumber
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Banner41 wrote: |
| I'm in Guangzhou, I pay it....no big deal...I get an ATM card with money on it every month for paying into it.... |
What do you mean? You are reimbursed for the amount of the tax? |
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Banner41
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| JoeThePlumber wrote: |
| Banner41 wrote: |
| I'm in Guangzhou, I pay it....no big deal...I get an ATM card with money on it every month for paying into it.... |
What do you mean? You are reimbursed for the amount of the tax? |
Not the total amount i pay (I pay like 1000 a month for social insurance and like 1000 or so in taxes) but I get an Everbright Bank card with a few hundred kwai a month that I can use at the pharmacy to buy anything. Has my name imprinted on it like a credit card. Supposedly we are able to claim some of the money back when we leave China but I haven't crossed that river yet. |
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Chronos
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| Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| MisterButtkins wrote: |
| Do not pay it. I am in Jilin. |
Wish we had a choice, but it is taken out of our salary. We have no control over that.
@Banner41 I see what you are saying. You consider that a sort of offset. My FAO is doing something similar. I get a food card for the canteen and now she said that my Electric and Water utility will not be charged if I don't abuse it and make it too high. Still not the full amount recovered, but it's better than a poke in the eye. I guess at the next contract negotiation I will come up with something to compensate me for this new wrinkle.
BTW, thanks everyone for the comments, keep it up. Its good to get an updated perspective of what is happening out there.
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kev7161
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| Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| get a food card for the canteen and now she said that my Electric and Water utility will not be charged if I don't abuse it and make it too high. |
Be careful with these verbal agreements as they are the least tenuous of all in China (and, yes, elsewhere too!). I am lucky in that I have not paid a single utility bill for the last 8+ years due to the fact the school contracted me with a 1000 per month utility rate. As the years went by, newer teachers started receiving only 500 per month. In a normal month, 500 is not bad, but extremely cold or extremely hot months can see your electric bill double or even triple.
What may be considered "abuse" by your FAO/school, could be considered normal for you. You might want to clarify with them and definitely get it in writing come next contract time. |
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