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whhels22 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 13

for those who asked the interview was in Lithuania.

biffinbridge · Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 701 Location: Frank's Wild Years

They were checking your response as the school's probably a front for the mafia,money laundering and vice.Where is it exactly?

gtidey · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 93

ha lithuania. thats a whole new kettle of fish then.

Gordon · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan

gtidey · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 93

"Yeah, i can sort you out if you want, must be difficult to get good stuff here eh? whaddya fancy; ket, billy, coke, beans, jane?"

might be the most appropriate answer for lithuania

whhels22 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 13

The school is Located in Vilnius.

kev7161 · Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China

"i read in the paper today that a high school - one that you dont pay for, mind you, just a normal school like you and i went to - are doing random drug tests on kids between 11 (yes, eleven) and 16. if they fail theyre booted out the school. WHAT HARM CAN COME FROM HAVING A BIT OF REEFER AFTER SCHOOL? they arent even paying to go to school, its mandatory for kids to go to school, now theyre kicking them out because of what they do outside of school. "

Are you serious about this? I don't think " . . . a bit of reefer after school" is what most schools are worried about. You have kids shooting up heroin in the john (loo, toilet, etc.), smoking crack in the PE locker rooms, zoning out on hallucinatory drugs on the bus coming to school. Not only are the drugs bad for them physically, it really messes up their minds. Some kid whacked out on dope becomes aggressive, paranoid, and violent. Before you know it, you have another Columbine on your hands (for those of you that don't know about this . . . this is one (of several) incidences where kids took matters into their own hands and killed several other students before turning their guns on themselves. See Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" for the grisly details). Oh yeah, there's also the matter of these 15, 16, and 17 year old kids getting behind the wheel of their shiny new cars and taking themselves out - - along with their three or four friends that came along for the joyride.

And don't even think that 11 and 12 year olds are not doing drugs. They are and many times their bodies are not physically mature enough to handle it and they can easily OD on whatever stuff they are "experimenting" with. Not only are their bodies not equipped to handle it, but their minds certainly don't have the mental capacity to understand the potential outcomes of drug usage. You are right, the kids don't pay to go to school. Their parents pay for this honor (it's called TAXES). Kids are in school more than they are home (not counting sleeping hours) and parents can't be there to discipline and police their children. Sadly, it is the responsibility of the schools to do it. In the USA, drug usage has spiraled way out of control, so it was only a matter of time before it came to random drug testing in the schools. As a teacher, I, for one, applaud it.

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There should be two questions:

1. Have you ever used drugs?

2. Are you a liar?

No way around that one Cool

kev7161 · Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China

So, Laura C., are you saying you approve of teens smoking pot and getting high? And are you saying that teens DON'T experiment with other drugs (Ecstasy is VERY popular these days, by the way)? I'm assuming you are a teacher and you are okay with this? From what I've read about marijuana, it does affect your brain cells and it does slow reaction time and it "could" lead to other, heavier drugs. So, smoking pot and getting behind the wheel of a car (or smoking pot WHILE actually being behind the wheel), may not seem as dangerous as alcohol (a liquid drug, in my opinion) but even when reaction time is slowed by a couple of seconds, those seconds could spell the difference between life and death. Would you risk it? Have you risked it?

Have you ever worked in an inner city school? In reality, drug use there is probably less than the "white" middle-class suburban schools. And it really, really is not just pot-smoking. There are some deadly drugs floating around out there Laura C. I don't need to cite sources here, just do a google search on drugs and teenagers and you will have days and days of reading materials. And I don't care if it is a "bit of reefer" or crack or something else, it doesn't belong in the schools. If they are doing it AFTER school in the privacy of their neighborhood playground, then that is their own risk. But they are doing random drug tests DURING school hours to make sure the kids aren't high (or drunk) while in school or don't come to school already buzzed. This can and has led to violence and property damage, not to mention the illegal selling of drugs on school grounds.

As for the reference to "Bowling for Columbine", I didn't mean to imply that those murdering boys were high when they caused the violence, I was just using it as a reference to school violence. For most people in America (and Canada?), Columbine now equals school violence (sadly, for that city). Sorry about the confusion.

"There are more important things to worry about than a 15 year old haivng a spliff"

Really? Like what? My guess is you enjoy a doobie from time to time and, as a 'responsible' adult, that is your choice. Drinking and drug use (including marijuana smoking) among teens can lead and have led to: teenage pregnancies, lower grades/drop-outs, teen/school violence, property destruction, traffic fatalities, depression, suicide, and a host of other things (due to people's altered state-of-mind when using).

If a TEACHER is saying marijuana use is okay (even occasional recreational use) for teenagers, then I'm a little worried about what else he or she may shrug their shoulders about!

(Now I will get off my soapbox)

guest of Japan · Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan

In the early 1970's Nixon had a large scale investigation done into marijuana, the purpose was to prove that it was a gateway drug. The investigation was done by scientists, doctors, sociologists, and pychologists. After two years the report concluded that there is no evidence that marijuana use leads to harder drugs. It did find that people are likely to use harder drugs because marijuana users were forced to interact in the drug community because marijuana was illegal. In effect it was saying that marijauna laws were the gateway into the use of harder drugs. Nixon's reaction to the report: "I can't tell the American people this." The report was shelved.

My source is a teacher I did my student teaching with. He was not pro-drug in any way. The professor he did his masters in sociology with was one or the specialists involved in the report.