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Rioting in Riyadh
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 years ago Saudi oil was going to run out in 20 years. Laughing

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Salalah Man



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject: Rioting in Riyadh Reply with quote

It's often said that Saudis won't do working class jobs but if push comes to shove, I think some of them will. I've noticed in the local supermarket that there are some Saudis manning the checkouts and I think there will come a time when they'll be teaching at universities (if not already?), driving taxis, or other forms of manual labour. I know that some Saudis are rich and consider themselves beneath such work but nowadays there are plenty of them who are NOT wealthy and I think it's only a matter of time before they have to do some of the work currently filled by expats. People usually try to adapt to changing circumstances rather than force change themselves and my guess is that the Saud regime will continue for the foreseeable future.
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johnslat



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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Salalah Man,

I can recall when there was a "Saudification" attempt to have Saudi taxi drivers.
It didn't work out so well because too many ladies shared this woman's feelings:

"Another said that what most annoys her is “nosy drivers”. “The most important thing for me is that the driver is a foreigner, I won’t get in a taxi driven by a Saudi as it’s embarrassing,” she said."

And some, at least, were afraid of riding with a Saudi driver.

Regards,
John
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cmp45



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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Location: KSA

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed more Saudis are driving taxis. Many are shysters, but a few are decent and are not trying to rip you off. The airport is where many of the Saudi drivers tend to rip you off the most. I prefer the expat taxi drivers. The day that you see a Saudi dressed in a yellow jump suit picking up trash will be the day that KSA's mind set has changed...makes me wonder if women will be driving by then? I am certain when that time rolls round I'll be long gone.
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rollingk



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we'll have another decade of oil at least . . . so few of us would be up for volunteer work here.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the old days (1970s) driving jobs, including taxi driving were restricted to Saudis only. Those days WILL come back ! (I was in Jeddah and Tabuk working for the Min of Ed in 1970-1972)
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rollingk



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The day that you see a Saudi dressed in a yellow jump suit picking up trash will be the day that KSA's mind set has changed...makes me wonder if women will be driving by then?

Maybe by then orange will have become the new black . . . that would be a small change.
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mashkif



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In-freaking-shallah!

US to surpass Saudi as top oil producer:
http://news.kuwaittimes.net/us-surpass-saudi-top-oil-producer-iea/

They've been using their oil money to blackmail us as well as sponsor all kinds of insalubrious activities against us for too long!
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2buckets



Joined: 14 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would happen today if public lands were opened up to the harvesting of the PEOPLE'S natural resources.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 2buckets,

I know that according to the Supreme Court, corporations are people, but in the context of your statement, I don't think I'd call EXXON, CONOCO/PHILLIPS or CHEVRON as real "people."

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John
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2buckets



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well these corporations pay huge royalties and taxes to the gov't, so people do benefit. In addition, if you invest in them, (and there is hardly anyone who is in a pension fund or 401k that isn't invested in energy companies), one also benefits. A downstream benefit is cheaper prices at the pump, if there is more oil on the market. Lower pump prices helps the least fortunate among us, as fuel costs make up much bigger proportion of their budget.


Hey, Im a real people, and I'm part of XOM, RDS, BP ,CVX, TOT, COP, BPL, and a few more. We're just one big happy family. especially when the quarterly dividends roll in as regularly as the tide.
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: when will it run out? Reply with quote

Former Aramco high-ups predict that the current estimate of 40 more years of cheap oil (cheap to refine) can be cut by 40% to provide more accurate number. Whatever the actual number, 10 more years is fine for me....I should have a couple of houses paid off by then. Inshallah.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 2buckets,

Not a great tree-hugger, I take it, Very Happy

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John
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revilo



Joined: 05 Oct 2013
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Location: Mos Eisley

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: what about the exit visa? Reply with quote

Saudi Arabia is one of those countries that insists on exit visas. Are they waiving this requirment as they boot expats out of the country? KSA is a fine example of "do as I say, not as I do."
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you are deported as an illegal immigrant, you do not need an exit visa. Or a return ticket.
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