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Volver



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: unacceptable behaviors Reply with quote

I have a class of 16 students who will be leaving for study in the US this June. They all want to know how to act in the States and what they should not do. Here is what I have so far for completely unacceptable behaviors:

hacking and spitting
spitting out your bones onto the table or floor
1 finger nose blows
chewing with your mouth open
talking at the movies
cutting in front of people in lines
helping each other when the teacher calls on a person in class
public urination
footprints on the toilet seat
not flushing afterwards
giving red roses to the wife/gf of someone who invites you to a party

There must be more that I am missing. Any and all suggestions welcome and I will incorporate them into my lessons over the next few months.

Thank you.

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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not rushing for the plane the minute the gate opens - you have assigned seats and you won't get there any quicker.

Similarly, standing up and opening the overhead luggage bins the minute the plane lands - again, it won't get you off any quicker and you'll just embarrass your countrymen when the Delta stewardesses play whack-a-mole to try and get you back in your seats.
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best advice is to just try and be polite.

What's the purpose for their visit? Is it a short holiday or for study? I ask as if they're going to study, they should be aware of the different academic attitudes and etiquette.
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best advice is to just try and be polite.

What's the purpose for their visit? Is it a short holiday or for study? I ask as if they're going to study, they should be aware of the different academic attitudes and etiquette.

EDIT: Also, I know it's a bone of contention on this website but Americans in America are not 'laowai'.
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Volver



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for their visit is for schooling. They will be in the States for 1.5 years so, yeah, I should probably be teaching them school etiquette. Suggestions welcome.

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Mr. Leafy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volver wrote:
The reason for their visit is for schooling. They will be in the States for 1.5 years so, yeah, I should probably be teaching them school etiquette. Suggestions welcome.


in school
- Ask before photographing a lecturer's ppt slides with your phone. Some of them will say no, so learn to actually take notes.
- Clean up after yourself. Don't leave food wrappers all over your classroom.
- Your American (if that's where they are going) classmates will be less 'touchy' than you are used to.
- Don't stand as close to acquaintances in casual conversation as you would here.

in general
- check the volume of your voice is some public places. Follow what people around you are doing.
- I wrote this and erased it several times, but ... wash your hands after using the toilet.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait for the people in the elevator (lift) to exit before you enter.

Shoving money at the KFC girl and shouting your order generally won't work. Wait in line.

Guys, please don't tell your male professors/teachers/ any male that they are handsome or 'very handsome!'. Just don't.

Don't ask everyone how old they are and if they're married. Talk about the weather, or your classes, or your major. Seriously.

Guys, enunciate and use your dam vocal chords. Use your lungs. Stop freaking whispering. So annoying. Speak up! Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.

Do not ask everyone their favorite band and then ask them if they like One Direction/Westlife/ Any Crappy Boy Band. Grow the heck up. Don't follow up by asking them to listen to a Westlife/etc./etc. song. Back off. We get it, you really only want an excuse to listen to another lame BB song. If you tell everyone you like boy bands they will think you're gay. You will not enrich anyone's life by introducing them to the wonders of boy bands. You're in the west now so for the sake of all that is good, listen to something else.

Oh, and guys, doing boy band dance routines between classes will not win you any honey. Trust me.

Do not ask people detailed questions with respect to why they do what they do, then offer critiques. That is rude. If they want your advice, they'll ask for it.

The above includes criticizing what and how people eat. Not everyone eats vegetables and rice.

Yes you've been told that Chinese are vastly superior to others, but may I suggest you keep it a secret? You might experience a rude awakening.

Surprise! Western girls are not all 'hot blooded'. Sorry! Sad but true. (Dang I wish it were true!) Treat women well and you'll be fine. Miley Cyrus is a talentless embarrassment, not an icon. I really want to keep this a secret so you'll all repeatedly crash and burn on the dating scene, but ... dam I guess I'll be nice.

Try not to have a heart attack when you see a woman in a bikini. Western women have curves. You'll get used to it.

Do not expect to improve your test score by imploring the teacher with various pleas and excuses or by other means. Do not fail every exam and expect to hongbao your way into a good final grade. Won't happen.
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buffalobill12323



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twilothunder wrote:
Not rushing for the plane the minute the gate opens - you have assigned seats and you won't get there any quicker.


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I'm pretty sure they will get to the plane first if they stand at the front of the queue. I always wait til they end myself, but, I have no problem with people who wanna get on first
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hochhasd



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure they take a shower each day.
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damn_my_eyes



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't snigger and stare at the 120kg locals, you're not in China anymore and they are likely to punch you in the face!

Learn how to give a sincere and measured "hello or hi" when you meet someone.

Tell the boys that if they are virgins now that it's pretty much 100% guaranteed they'll still be virgins when they come back.
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change your clothes on a daily...not weekly..basis.

Breathmints are your friend.

If you insist on playing basketball or whatever during downtime, take a shower before returning to class.

Boys...if you smack another boy on his butt, expect a punch in the face.

Learn to carry your own damn bags. You do not need 2 people to carry one bag of groceries or a bookbag.

Learn what personal space is...and respect it.

Boys...If somebody is criticizing you, do not bow your head and stare at your feet if you are alone. Man up. Learn how to stand up for yourself without 6 of your buddies around.

Forget about the concept of 'face' entirely.

Do not kiss the butts of everyone you feel has a higher position than you do.

Boys I do not care how hot it is....do not lift your shirt above your belly. You look absurd.

Do not tell somebody you love them on the first date or encounter.

Girls...learn how to dress appropriately for the occasion and time of day.

Nobody wants to listen to what you're listening to. Ever. Invest in earbuds if you want to listen to music on your phone.


EDIT: To add to something Choudofu said...
Lose the habit of saying 那个(nage) all the time. Depending on how you pronounce it....it may sound similar to something you should not be saying.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I totally don't get the one about not taking red roses to the wife or GF at a party you are invited to. It wouldn't bother ME in the least. I'll take my roses where I can get them, and I suspect many women would feel the same.
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cps82856



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree and second all the comments so far. A couple of my pet peeves that haven't been mentioned:

On an escalator, stand right, walk left. They're still stairs, so if you're going for the free ride, at least leave room. Don't stand two abreast and block people from moving past you. Also works on moving walkways.

Same idea applies to entering/exiting doorways, using staircases and even the sidewalk. Keep right in general and you'll move more smoothly.

No need to shout on your cellphone. (A lot of Americans need to learn this one, too. And it's a cellphone in the US, sorry.) Maybe when you invest in the previously mentioned earbuds, get one with a mic so you can hear yourself a little better.

All the hygiene tips mentioned are valid. A handkerchief is a good investment.

Don't ask people, "Where are you going?" Sounds too abrupt. Put "So" in front of a question like that. (So, what are you up to later?) Learn to use contractions.

And so many more.
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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buffalobill12323 wrote:
twilothunder wrote:
Not rushing for the plane the minute the gate opens - you have assigned seats and you won't get there any quicker.


.


I'm pretty sure they will get to the plane first if they stand at the front of the queue. I always wait til they end myself, but, I have no problem with people who wanna get on first


Yeah, they'll get to the plane first but not to the destination any earlier.
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teenoso



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They all want to know how to act in the States and what they should not do

It is interesting you choose to concentrate on the 'unacceptable behaviour' bit .

Many Chinese people I know here are also disgusted by the behaviour you mention , and know it's not polite . Students ought to know that littering and spitting is not good, (tho' of course back home in the UK I still see many people doing the same things) .

Anyway , I would add two to your list : squatting in public , waiting for a bus for example, is very strange (in the west); and wearing your jacket back to front to ward off the wind on a motorcycle is not cool!
Come to think of it, walking backwards for exercise is likely to get you lots of laughs!

How about , on the 'encouaging side', teaching them how to break free from the herd mentality of chinese students and visitors overseas, to reach out on their own to local people , make friends, and have meaningful interactions.
Someone mentioned body language , and things like eye contact , smiling at strangers, casual hellos and encounters, being friendly and open , being curious - all are important things, which are not necessarily 'natural' for chinese people.

You could also teach them about the probability of culture shock, what it is, and what to do, and simple things like 'expect jet lag and have a plan to deal with it'.

On the boy band thing, this depends on your age , but yes definitely try to introduce them to 'real-world' popular youth culture !
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