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Mr. Leafy
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| It was pretty much as roadwalker, vikeologist and others said, just a review of the rules and fines. Don't try convert students, or have sex with prostitutes or visa versa. |
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wonderingjoesmith
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:59 am Post subject: |
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So, how would teaching prostitutes be?
Converting my students when using English is one of my major tasks in the class.
Understandably, nobody should tick those office dudes, but how do you do your real job well when following them? |
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Non Sequitur
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Would be great if the Chinese would attempt to find out WHY FTs do runners from their employers.
WLamar.
Rule 1: You never have the last word with the Chinese.
Rule 2: When you think you've had the last word - refer Rule 1 |
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JoeThePlumber
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I thought maybe it had something to do with the Renmin University scandal:
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/28/corruption-scandal-hits-one-of-chinas-top-universities/?_r=2
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Renmin University of China, in Beijing, one of the leading centers of higher learning in the country, conferred its first degrees this year in a new graduate program in combating corruption. Future classes now have a case study close to home to draw from.
This week, the head of the university’s student admissions office was accused of trying to flee the country after he came under investigation in a corruption case involving hundreds of millions of renminbi, according to Chinese news reports. A Ministry of Education press officer confirmed to state-run China Central Television that the administrator, Cai Rongsheng, was under investigation, without disclosing further details.
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Would be great if the Chinese would attempt to find out WHY FTs do runners from their employers.
WLamar.
Rule 1: You never have the last word with the Chinese.
Rule 2: When you think you've had the last word - refer Rule 1 |
This.
Warm regards,
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| JoeThePlumber wrote: |
IThis week, the head of the university’s student admissions office was accused of trying to flee the country after he came under investigation in a corruption case involving hundreds of millions of renminbi, according to Chinese news reports. A Ministry of Education press officer confirmed to state-run China Central Television that the administrator, Cai Rongsheng, was under investigation, without disclosing further details.
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Oh!
Warm regards,
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| So, how would teaching prostitutes be? |
While working in Seattle, I was given a class of "sex workers' trying to improve their life.....girls were not stupid and threw a heck of a X-mas party....
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| But I'm guessing that most people here in hiding aren't willing to ruffle any feathers in this respect, right? |
Elegant words from behind a keyboard. |
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wonderingjoesmith
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think we're missing an important point here
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| Don't try convert students |
I'd like to know in detail what it means. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| wonderingjoesmith wrote: |
I think we're missing an important point here
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| Don't try convert students |
I'd like to know in detail what it means. |
Haven't you come across a closet Missionary yet?
There's one in Qingdao whose been at various schools there. |
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muffintop
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| Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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More than one in QD I'd imagine. I had one of these jokers as my FAO for 2 years.
The clown would invite students to his house on the weekend and give them a spiel. Unfortunately, some students felt obligated to attend. They did not have the courage to refuse an invitation from a teacher. He was universally disliked and eventually had to leave in embarrassment....but he has another job in QD.
One thing I'll never forget is that one day I was teaching different expressions for like and dislike. Gave them a handout that went like...
I dislike _______
I despise ________
I loathe ________
I really can't stand _________
_____ annoys me.
and so on.....
Every single student in the class put that guys name for every single answer. Somehow those handouts ended up on his desk.  |
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Mr. Leafy
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| wonderingjoesmith wrote: |
I think we're missing an important point here
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| Don't try convert students |
I'd like to know in detail what it means. |
As others pointed out, they meant it's illegal to engage in religious missionary activities, overtly or disguised as a teacher. What did you think it meant? |
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wonderingjoesmith
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Leafy wrote: |
| wonderingjoesmith wrote: |
I think we're missing an important point here
| Mr. Leafy wrote: |
| Don't try convert students |
I'd like to know in detail what it means. |
As others pointed out, they meant it's illegal to engage in religious missionary activities, overtly or disguised as a teacher. What did you think it meant? |
The meaning of "convert";
1. To change (something) into another form, substance, state, or product; transform: convert water into ice.
2. To change (something) from one use, function, or purpose to another; adapt to a new or different purpose: convert a forest into farmland.
3. To persuade or induce to adopt a particular religion, faith, or belief: convert pagans to Christianity; was converted to pacifism by the war.
4. To exchange for something of equal value: convert assets into cash.
5. To exchange (a security, for example) by substituting an equivalent of another form.
6. To express (a quantity) in alternative units: converting feet into meters.
7. Logic To transform (a proposition) by conversion.
8. Law
a. To appropriate (another's property) without right to one's own use.
b. To change (property) from real to personal or from joint to separate or vice versa.
9. Sports
a. To complete (a conversion, penalty shot, or free throw) successfully.
b. To score (a spare) in bowling.
v.intr.
1. To undergo a conversion: We converted to Islam several years ago.
2. To be converted: a sofa that converts into a bed; arms factories converting to peacetime production.
3.
a. Football To make a conversion.
b. Sports To shoot and score a goal, especially immediately after receiving a pass or gaining control of a rebound.
n. (knvûrt)
One who has been converted, especially from one religion or belief to another.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/convert
I know nobody is going to convert his/her students into ice or farmland; however, to be clearer on the asignment, if I were told not to convert my students, i'd ask for more direction than i got. |
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| As others pointed out, they meant it's illegal to engage in religious missionary activities, overtly or disguised as a teacher |
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Many religious groups do engage in teaching activities with the full knowledge of the government. Missionaries are indeed given visas for that purpose but they must maintain a position that works within the framework of the law. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| NoBillyNO wrote: |
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| As others pointed out, they meant it's illegal to engage in religious missionary activities, overtly or disguised as a teacher |
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Many religious groups do engage in teaching activities with the full knowledge of the government. Missionaries are indeed given visas for that purpose but they must maintain a position that works within the framework of the law. |
Can't imagine such a position would be as a FT.
Re QD missionary-type.
Sounds awfully like the same guy.
'Mr' plus the first letter of his surname is his preferred form of address by students.
I was his DTA for a semester and had to ask him not to hold classes in his apartment. |
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Can't imagine such a position would be as a FT. |
Entire Christian groups are sanctioned as English teachers in the PRC. I believe one of the groups in Dong Bei I ran across was ELIC or something to that effect... had prayer meetings each morning and a nativity scene at the Christmas party but man' they were so loud when they partied you'd think they were building an Ark. |
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