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Non Sequitur
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I'm talking about 'FT' as the common variety that most of us are.
That is someone who is hired to teach Oral and then clandestinely starts to proselytise. |
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wonderingjoesmith
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I'm talking about 'FT' as the common variety that most of us are.
That is someone who is hired to teach Oral and then clandestinely starts to proselytise. |
This "Oral" is something I've been hearing a lot here. How does one teach English when only focusing on "Oral"? For a Teacher, Chinese, who learn English, have plenty to correct. Sounds like there's much absent teaching around. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| wonderingjoesmith wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I'm talking about 'FT' as the common variety that most of us are.
That is someone who is hired to teach Oral and then clandestinely starts to proselytise. |
This "Oral" is something I've been hearing a lot here. How does one teach English when only focusing on "Oral"? For a Teacher, Chinese, who learn English, have plenty to correct. Sounds like there's much absent teaching around. |
Unclear as to your meaning Joe.
Oral is getting students to use the language in spoken dialogue.
The 'communicative' method is the approach generally taught via the various ESL courses.
The spoken English isn't content based, which is why I recoil from an OP wanting to get a discussion going on political systems. |
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roadwalker
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| Yeah I think that quasi-sanctioned missionary work is common, or at least not uncommon. I worked at one public uni where 'English corner' was actually Bible study in the hip young foreign teachers' apartment. The ft's who participated were from a US based program that apparently subsidized their salaries, allowing the school to get them on the cheap. Yes, it violated the spirit and probably the letter of the law but was okayed by the FAO office. |
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Non Sequitur
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Kinda sad roadwalker, don't you think?
I would rather see their Christianity demonstrated via commitment their students from across the ability spectrum. Endless patience and good behaviour.
I bet the Bible class pics sent home go down a treat at the local Baptist church in Plano, but it sure seems like teacher-centredness to me. |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Kinda sad roadwalker, don't you think?
I would rather see their Christianity demonstrated via commitment their students from across the ability spectrum. Endless patience and good behaviour.
I bet the Bible class pics sent home go down a treat at the local Baptist church in Plano, but it sure seems like teacher-centredness to me. |
The teachers in question were decent kids (young men) who did seem to care for their students and were friendly to all (including me, a non-believer). I liked them, actually. I also think having two masters, or missions, can distract or detract from the job you are paid to do. And yeah, in a situation where the students are learning not only how to communicate in a language, but also 'the way', it's bound to be teacher-centered. |
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WLamar
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| roadwalker wrote: |
| Yeah I think that quasi-sanctioned missionary work is common, or at least not uncommon. I worked at one public uni where 'English corner' was actually Bible study in the hip young foreign teachers' apartment. The ft's who participated were from a US based program that apparently subsidized their salaries, allowing the school to get them on the cheap. Yes, it violated the spirit and probably the letter of the law but was okayed by the FAO office. |
It takes only a quick message to the PSB or SAFEA or any other party-led department to curb this behavior and I'm lacking in any hesitation to say that I've done it on more than one occasion. Nips it and those folks right out of town in a flash. |
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choudoufu
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mw182006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Well, our visitors came and went today without needing to speak to me. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| mw182006 wrote: |
| Well, our visitors came and went today without needing to speak to me. |
Just shows that living a life of blameless excellence pays off.
Welcome to the club! |
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