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kanjizai
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 69
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:29 am Post subject: Contract help |
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Hello all,
I'm new to the China experience and need some help deciding if this is a good contract. An hour or so outside of the major city, free shared accommodation, and 6300rmb before taxes. About 25 hours a week.
My initial feeling is this is a low offer, but I'm not sure what the going rate is in the country. Could anyone tell me what they think about this offer based on their knowledge?
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Where is it exactly? Definite "need to know" there. Borderline too many hours.
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Dealbreaker for me. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 3198 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Dealbreaker for me. |
Also a dealbreaker for me. Share with whom? I'm too old for shared accommodation, free or otherwise.
Warm regards,
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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| OP, you were asked where because in some areas, the salaries are low and that salary above isn't far out of line while in other areas, it's way too low for 25 hours. Also make sure you are clear on whether the hours are class hours (i.e. 40 to 50 minutes = one 'hour') or literal hours so that 25 hours equals 30 classes. Private accommodation has been the norm in China for a long time so a lot of us recoil at the thought of sharing with some foreign teacher. Some do prefer shared, so if you do, obviously that wouldn't be a deal breaker for you. Just reiterating that the majority of jobs offer private. |
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teenoso
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 365 Location: south china
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Agree this is probably a low salary offer, but it depends where the 'major city' is - which province? In Guizhou, Yunnan or Guangxi this could be a good salary , even though the hours are high (far too high , IMO!) |
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kanjizai
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 69
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks everyone for your replies. It is good to know what the norm is. |
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Bud Powell
Joined: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 1736
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mean to be a jerk, but you really should do your own homework before you decide to go leave the country.
You've given very little information upon which anyone can base an opinion which leads me to believe that you don't have enough understanding of ESL in China to make an informed decision to come to China to teach.
Try reading a LOT of ESL forums to form your own impression. Take a look at abroadchina.org to see what is offered for almost every kind of school throughout China.
Then check your qualifications against school criteria to see if you even qualify to teach in China.
Then examine your motives for wanting to teach in China. If you intend to go to China to play around, try to remember how you felt when you had a high school or college teacher who didn't belong in the class room. Then think of the best teacher you've ever had. Where do you fall within that continuum?
Sorry to sound so harsh, but these are things that you need to think about. |
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NoBillyNO

Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:40 am Post subject: |
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That is funny, and when I think of how I came here it all started with hitting the west coast and keep on going...ending up in China ...on a L visa, accepting a job cause I wanted to stay a bit longer and having the fortune to have a tech. cert. from the US. Seeing a sidecar motorcycle and instantly coming up with a goal of owning one and riding around China and Mongolia. Being a teacher never came into play except for providing the coin to stay and much the same today. A job is a job is a job. My motives were just for a extended "look see" and had nothing to do with teaching.. I just do that to provide oil for God's machinery of fate.
I think the best motive for any pursuit in life is "I just want to"...
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Don't know if I would go this far but certainly doing what you want is reason for most about anything that doesn't harm those around you .... |
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mambawamba
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:37 am Post subject: |
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@ Kanjizai
Bud's making a lot of good points and doesn't deserve such a hostile response. Bad form mate.
If you come to China with that kind of (knee) jerk reaction to people who are trying to help you then you won't last a month.
@ NoBillyNo Ah that Ole Black Magick
The post which this was a response to was removed.
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D-M
Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 114
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Contract help |
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| kanjizai wrote: |
Hello all,
I'm new to the China experience and need some help deciding if this is a good contract. An hour or so outside of the major city, free shared accommodation, and 6300rmb before taxes. About 25 hours a week.
My initial feeling is this is a low offer, but I'm not sure what the going rate is in the country. Could anyone tell me what they think about this offer based on their knowledge?
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Id want to know more details before really commenting too.
Who would you be teaching and how frequent would the contact be? This makes a huge difference ... teaching kindy deserves a far higher salary, and normally pays much more. If you see the same students every day more planning is required out-of-hours.
What are the working hours? 25 hours with the majority of the work being evenings and weekends deser | |