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Was your CELTA or equivalent course worth it?
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Was your CELTA or equivalent course worth it?
Yes
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 70%  [ 19 ]
No
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 29%  [ 8 ]
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Was your CELTA or equivalent course worth it? Reply with quote

Many of us have taken a CELTA or equivalent entry-level course (ONSITE, including supervised teaching practice with real students - NOT ONLINE).

If you took one, was it worth it overall?





For myself, I've moved past my original cert with further quals, but it did provide a reasonable starting point.
I've been involved in both entry-level and ongoing teacher training for some years now, and I think it's useful.
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of earnings (a rough "employability"), yes it was worth it. It (and/or rather the experience that as luck would have it was offered and immediately followed at the school attached to the training center) probably helped me get a leg up on the competition, especially in China and Japan, and the cost wasn't too hard to recoup within a year or two (but that was then, can the same be said nowadays?).

In terms of content-value, I'm not so sure. Could I find my way around a classroom afterwards and make it look lively and communicative enough? Yes. Was there actually that much learning taking place, aided by top-notch input? Debatable, even with happy observers. And it's really easy to putter along in a middling gear if enough of the students you're driving know a fair number of the highways and byways already.
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was not bad at all. Learnt a lot, had some previous notions confirmed, had many more challenged, and had totally new avenues opened up. It was an excellent spring board to further teacher training.

However, it was marred by the attitude of certain other trainees, who constantly bit backs, gnawed the furniture, and molted their fur all over the classroom and the group. Some of them didn't get on well with the trainees, achieved open enmity with the saintly patient trainers, but failed utterly to develop any sort of rapport with the language learners, who were bored to death by biblical scale grammar lectures. Some failed outright, others scraped a pass, and then shipped off back to the Pacific areas were they had previous experience.Not sure what value they got out of it all really. Perhaps as much as they put in...
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ho ho ho Sash, if only I'd been an at all pugnacious fluffyhamster back then! Might've helped liven up the rather po-faced, at times almost grim, proceedings, that's for sure. Discord, enmity, lack of rapport, grammar lectures? Only from the trainers ROFL (some of whom had clearly been doing it a bit too long...or not long enough!). Another inaccuracy seems to be that 'shipped back' (I was shipped over, in a luxury EF shipping container as it happens). Anyway, back to Spiral's thread.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of my colleagues' courses were disrupted by Communist insurgents, so I suppose we all share some misfortunes...
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fat_chris



Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Many of my colleagues' courses were disrupted by Communist insurgents, so I suppose we all share some misfortunes...


Highly Esteemed Comrade Sasha,

But then did end up getting re-education then didn't they?

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear respected Fat_Chris

Not only did they receive re-education, for free, but they learnt to love the Great Vozhd. Sadly, some recalcitrants didn't manage to make that great mental leap forward, and had to be dealt with severely. Some others, however, managed to escape, only surviving the harshness of the elements by trapping and skinning many small furry animals on the tundra. Since then there have been many sightings and reports of lost wanderers wrapped in mangy hides and scruffy sables roaming the snowswept wilderness in search of a place to teach. A few appear to have migrated to the south and south east...

After the camp guards were shot for negligence, all these events became useful bedtime stories for scaring children and future trainees about the horrors that await those who dare to disobey the wise directives of the Great and Enlightened Vozhd, and his Celta trainer team.


With Communist greetings

Sasha
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote