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Valaki
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:19 am Post subject: Visa renewal on part time contract?! |
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I'm currently looking for a company to renew my visa with and one of them is telling me they can do it by giving me a part time hourly contract paying approximately 180,000. 2000 yen per hour.
Can they really do this? I thought you needed more income and a full-time salaried position for visa renewal.
Also, they would require me to live in their own accommodation... which means I would have to pay the penalty for leaving my current apartment plus the deposit and first month's rent for their place. They would not allow me to stay in my current accommodation, even though it's close to the school.
Should I even be considering this? |
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Pitarou
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Visa renewal on part time contract?! |
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When I renewed my visa, which was about 2 years ago, the Immigration Bureau asked for documentation of my previous year's income, and who I was currently working for. They didn't check how many hours I was working.
I think they do it that way because those are the easiest documents to obtain.
Forcing you to live in their accommodation and pay a deposit strikes me as a little shady. |
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1983rm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| If you take that accommodation what happens if it doesn't work out at the job? |
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kah5217
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| No, you're not a baby. So don't let a company dictate your life. Besides, who knows what else they'll say, that you have a curfew? |
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Pitarou
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| kah5217 wrote: |
| No, you're not a baby. So don't let a company dictate your life. Besides, who knows what else they'll say, that you have a curfew? |
Easy to say when you don't have a visa renewal to worry about... |
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rtm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Visa renewal on part time contract?! |
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| Valaki wrote: |
| Should I even be considering this? |
I guess that depends on how badly you want to renew your visa. If it's your only offer, and you want to stay in Japan, then I'd say you should definitely be considering it.
Yes, there are some bad parts about it (the company accommodation and having to pay a penalty at your current apartment). But, maybe that's the price you'll have to pay in order to stay.
You might find someplace else, but you know what they say about a bird in the hand. I guess it depends on how much time you have left for your renewal, what the market is like where you are in Japan, and how badly you want to stay. |
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kah5217
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Pitarou wrote: |
| Easy to say when you don't have a visa renewal to worry about... |
This can't be the only way to renew OP's visa. If it's the only option, fine, but one should always shop around. |
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1983rm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| This is on topic for something I was gonna ask anyway - if your visa runs out can you ask for an extension while you look for a new job? |
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rtm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| 1983rm wrote: |
| This is on topic for something I was gonna ask anyway - if your visa runs out can you ask for an extension while you look for a new job? |
You can change to a tourist visa, which will give (most people) 3 months. |
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Valaki
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. Because nobody said otherwise, I take it everyone thinks that it is possible to renew after being put on a part time contract earning around 180 000.
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| I guess it depends on how much time you have left for your renewal, what the market is like where you are in Japan, and how badly you want to stay. |
My visa expires in May, the market is bad and I really really want to stay. |
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milkman
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May? Ah, you've got plenty of time, especially with the big April hiring season coming up. I guess it's a bird in hand vs. 2 in the bush sort of thing...
Anyway, you can definitely get a renewal with a part-time contract, I did it before without any issues. From what I've heard, you can't get your first visa on a part-time gig, but any renewals are fine as long as they put in the paperwork. |
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cat mother
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| If I remember correctly, Valaki is not a native speaker, so his options might indeed be limited. |
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Valaki
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| cat mother wrote: |
| If I remember correctly, Valaki is not a native speaker, so his options might indeed be limited. |
Thanks catmother |
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thomthom
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| Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:17 am Post subject: Re: Visa renewal on part time contract?! |
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| Pitarou wrote: |
| When I renewed my visa, which was about 2 years ago, the Immigration Bureau asked for documentation of my previous year's income, and who I was currently working for. |
So when you renew your visa they just asked for your tax documents for the previous year?
I've paid tax and health insurance every month, but I've been working for a different company than originally stated on my visa. I get the impression that the tax form your employer gives you is anonymous with respect to which company you've been working for; it just says how much tax you've paid, not the company name. Is that right? (I don't want the fact that I didn't inform them I switched jobs to affect my visa renewal.) |
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Pitarou
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| Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Visa renewal on part time contract?! |
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| thomthom wrote: |
| I've paid tax and health insurance every month, but I've been working for a different company than originally stated on my visa. I get the impression that the tax form your employer gives you is anonymous with respect to which company you've been working for; it just says how much tax you've paid, not the company name. Is that right? |
My source tells me otherwise. The tax form gives the name of the employer.
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| (I don't want the fact that I didn't inform them I switched jobs to affect my visa renewal.) |
I'm on a spousal visa so I haven't looked into this deeply, but I understand that there's no need, in principle, to inform them that you've changed jobs so long as you're still doing the kind of work that your visa permits.
Some people recommend that you proactively contact the Bureau at the time when you switch jobs, and ask them to confirm that your new job conforms to the conditions of your visa. I've no idea what happens if you try to do that some time after the job switch.
That's as much as I know. |
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