|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
chhinelo
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
|
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject: Textbook Suggestions for Special-Entrance Uni Class |
|
|
Hi All,
I'm looking for recommendations for a textbook to use with a class of special-entrance, false-beginner freshmen uni students who I'll be meeting three times a week next semester (consecutive days, 90 minutes each). I've been searching the forum and other places but I wanted to ask for current opinions.
One function I'm hoping the text will fulfill is reducing my lesson planning time, since I'll also be teaching classes of higher-level students. If the book gives me inspiration for those other classes too, all the better. But I'll only have my special-entrance (they take a warm-up year to make up for low exam scores) students get a copy, because they're the ones who I think will benefit most from more structure.
The course is Oral English. They get listening and writing in other classes. But I wouldn't rule out any book that dealt with those skills too. The directive from the college is pretty much: please try to help them. Some of the books I'm considering from what I've read online are:
--World Link, Susan Stempleski (I've mostly read good things about this but haven't found as much discussion about it as the others)
--New Interchange, Jack C. Richards
--Touchstone, Michael McCarthy
Any opinions on which of these might be most appropriate for my situation? I'm not set on one of those three, and other recommendations are welcome.
General teaching approach suggestions for the class I mentioned are also welcome, if anyone has experience/success/failures with similar groups. I'm new and this semester I only managed to motivate them in very short bursts, with lots of backfires. The feeling I get from administration is that I'm absorbing a known hassle, and they want me to survive. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
|
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've done the special entrance thing and that number of hours pw will kill you on a number of levels.
Not the least is that you and your students will be heartily sick of each other by the end of the the week.
Make sure the 90 mins is distinctly divided into 2x45 min and do different stuff in the 2nd.
I only know New Interchange and it's useless for the work you will be doing. Horribly biased to US culture too. 'My name is Charles but you can call me Chuck'.
The NI dialogues are so short it will take your students more time to come to the front of the class than to actually read.
So look for extended dialogues of 2/3 mins duration and where each reader gets more or less the same workload.
After you get them confidently reading from text get them to prepare and present their own dialogues with less and less supporting notes.
In the 2nd 45 do things like cocktail party games and similar stuff.
And above all watch your TTT (Teacher Talk Time) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
D-M
Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 114
|
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I teach a lot from Face2Face. I think if you teach from a book you also need the other resources too ... by that I mean the teachers book and all the listening tasks. The listening tasks often give the target language in context so you need to do them to set up the framework for the grammar. If you dont have the teachers book you may not know how to teach the grammar ... and so you end up teaching perhaps 40% of the textbook ... which defeats the purpose really!
Im teaching an advanced class of adult learners at the moment using the Face2Face Advanced book ... they are probably the most productive and useful lessons I teach IMHO.
NS - Just 3 x 90 minute lessons a week? That would be bliss for some of us. I have one student who has been in the majority of my classes since April for 5 x 90 minute lessons a week! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
|
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
D-M wrote: |
I teach a lot from Face2Face. I think if you teach from a book you also need the other resources too ... by that I mean the teachers book and all the listening tasks. The listening tasks often give the target language in context so you need to do them to set up the framework for the grammar. If you dont have the teachers book you may not know how to teach the grammar ... and so you end up teaching perhaps 40% of the textbook ... which defeats the purpose really!
Im teaching an advanced class of adult learners at the moment using the Face2Face Advanced book ... they are probably the most productive and useful lessons I teach IMHO.
NS - Just 3 x 90 minute lessons a week? That would be bliss for some of us. I have one student who has been in the majority of my classes since April for 5 x 90 minute lessons a week! |
Gulp!! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
teenoso
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Posts: 365 Location: south china
|
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
This sounds a bit of a nightmare - these special entrance classes often mean rich, demotivated and unwilling students. Assume an 18 week semester, and you will need to prepare over 50 lessons......aargh.
One textbook is not going to give you enough material , but whichever you choose needs to be really good. (No specific suggestions, sorry, but not anything written by Chinese teachers!)
I would be careful about regarding them as 'false beginners' since they will have had maybe 6 or 7 years of grammar lessons , and some of their spoken English might be quite good if Mummy and Daddy have paid for cram school or summer camp.
I would wait till you meet them , and do a needs analysis . Textbooks can then be ordered quite quickly (I guess) if your college is switched on.
Also , plan to do lots of varied listening, reading and writing tasks, as well as spoken activities , so you and the kids do not go up the wall with boredom.
If you have been given a licence to teach anything, you could do a 'tour ' of English speaking countries, with readings, songs, cultural activities - one week on US, one week on UK etc; then in other weeks you could choose a theme - travel, sports and exercise, education.
Whatever way you choose , looks like an awful lot of preparation. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
|
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
+1
I was able to use the book stuff and the more free flow speaking exercises in both my special entrance classes and my regular (not English major) freshmen classes. This was at a vocational.
As I have a lot of resources accumulated over time for the cocktail and other 2nd 45 activities, planning wasn't a real issue.
The big difference is I saw my specials 3xpw and my regular freshers once.
The specials therefore really consumed resources and as they were a smaller class, a speaking exercise from the book which would take a 40+ fresher class 2x45 min weeks to complete, would be over in less than one 45 min spell.
There were two special entrance classes at my last school and thinking back I should have asked to combine the two for the second 45 as they were on the same timing.
Things like cocktail party games do need a critical mass to get a buzz going. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
D-M
Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 114
|
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
A Face2Face book would be enough material I think. They normally have 12 units, with 3 or 4 lessons per unit plus review sections. One lesson takes me 3 or 4 x 45 minute periods with small classes .. typically 6 students.
NS - My teaching portfolio contains around 90 lessons. 30 at levels lower intermediate, intermediate and upper-int / advanced. The student I mentioned has been with me through the levels so has pretty much seen most of my 90 lesson portfolio. I am slowly adding to it with perhaps one new lesson created per week ... but teaching from a book is a godsend as it means I dont have to create too much in the way of materials.
Books dont always mean less planning though ... a book may introduce target language that teachers need to brush up on. Teaching from the page can be tough if you arent up to speed with language awareness and grammar structures etc. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
chhinelo
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
|
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for all the help. I'll skip NI and start looking at Face2Face. I'm still curious about World Link if anyone knows it.
teenoso wrote: |
I would be careful about regarding them as 'false beginners' since they will have had maybe 6 or 7 years of grammar lessons , and some of their spoken English might be quite good if Mummy and Daddy have paid for cram school or summer camp.
I would wait till you meet them , and do a needs analysis . Textbooks can then be ordered quite quickly (I guess) if your college is switched on.
Also , plan to do lots of varied listening, reading and writing tasks, as well as spoken activities , so you and the kids do not go up the wall with boredom.
|
I have been teaching the students for a couple months now, meeting twice a week and using my own material. I hesitated in calling them false beginners; some are definitely not, and as you say, they have all theoretically been studying English for many years. But for about half the class, I know I cannot go too basic. (I didn't do a lot of written grammar exercises, so I can mostly comment on their speaking and listening comprehension.)
I did one-on-one interviews recently, and with some of them, they did well enough to make me think they'd been holding out on me in class. Others, though, it was clear that their incomprehension of a slow "Do you like sports?" was genuine. In general, the kids are privileged, don't worry over grades, and probably rightly believe that they'll be bailed out of anything. A couple are at much too high a level, and I'll see if they can be moved, and a few others have an okay attitude and a genuinely very low level. My idea is to plan for them. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
chhinelo
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
|
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
I've narrowed it down to Face2Face and New Headway now. I think I'll choose Face2Face. But in case anyone has taught with both and has a preference/knowledge of key differences, I thought I'd bring you all in on the decision again.
Thanks again to D-M for making me aware of Face2Face, which seems to be just about exactly what I'm looking for. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
golsa
Joined: 20 Nov 2011 Posts: 185
|
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
chhinelo wrote: |
I've narrowed it down to Face2Face and New Headway now. I think I'll choose Face2Face. But in case anyone has taught with both and has a preference/knowledge of key differences, I thought I'd bring you all in on the decision again.
Thanks again to D-M for making me aware of Face2Face, which seems to be just about exactly what I'm looking for. |
I suggest English File Third Edition. It's very similar to Face2Face in that it's a complete course package (student's book, workbook, teacher's book, audio CDs, a video DVD, assessment tests, chapter tests, and unit tests with answer keys), but it's targeted at adults. The course package has everything from vocabulary banks to communicative activities to grammar worksheets.
The English File series does a pretty good job of using integrating the Lexical Approach into the series. If you're not familiar with the Lexical Approach, think of it as a way to teach language in chunks without really focusing on grammar. For example, when the book uses the second conditional for the first time, the students will read or listen to a story which uses the second conditional. Then students will discuss the story, write something using the second conditional, and then read, listen, and speak about it again. The book will only go on to the grammar exercises, which are often optional, after the students have been exposed to and used the second conditional half a dozen times or more.
I've never used Face2Face, but colleges tell me Face2Face is intended as an IELTS primer for teenagers. While that may or may not be true, both books do teach students to the Common European Framework standards, which is exactly what the IELTS assesses.
Here is one point of criticism about the CEF based books (Face2Face, English File, Cutting Edge, Headway, etc): they tend to be heavily biased towards using cultural references that Chinese students won't get easily. These include things like well known European business men, football, movie stars, etc. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Bud Powell
Joined: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 1736
|
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
"...I'm looking for recommendations for a textbook to use with a class of special-entrance, false-beginner freshmen uni students who I'll be meeting three times a week next semester (consecutive days, 90 minutes each). I've been searching the forum and other places but I wanted to ask for current opinions..."
I don't know what level of proficiency you're talking about. Are these remedial English students or advanced speakers? The terms "special placement" and "false beginner" don't compute. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 803
|
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's likely they are kids who did poorly on their Gaokao. Probably the guys who shout 'HAAAAAALLOOOOOO' at you then giggle like girls.
For the sake of the OP...I hope I am wrong. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
toteach
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 273
|
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
I was assigned New Interchange and had each class for two 90-minutes periods per week--and there was more than enough material to fill the semester. (You'd even be fine with doing three 90-minute periods per week). Reading, writing, speaking. It even came with a CD, so the listening component was addressed, too.
Personally, I'd purchase a teacher book and a student book and use portions of New Interchange to supplement your other lessons as "filler." |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
|
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
toteach wrote: |
I was assigned New Interchange and had each class for two 90-minutes periods per week--and there was more than enough material to fill the semester. (You'd even be fine with doing three 90-minute periods per week). Reading, writing, speaking. It even came with a CD, so the listening component was addressed, too.
Personally, I'd purchase a teacher book and a student book and use portions of New Interchange to supplement your other lessons as "filler." |
OP is teaching Oral English and as a text for that subject, NI is inadequate in my view. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339
|
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've worked with New English File and I liked that. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|