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[Yasuke]

Greetings All,

I would like to avoid recruiters after a very odd negotiation and job offer
If anyone knows how to get a foreign expert certificate ,how to come to China and set up in an area and find a job, Id appreciate if you passed it on. Thanks.

[vikeologist]

You should find the details of employers you want to work for, and contact them with your

CV + cover letter / email
Scan of passport (the page with your photo on)
Scan of qualifications
Professional photo of yourself

You don't have to find job vacancies or adverts.

Doing it any other way is difficult and risky.

You also need to decide which kind of employer / school you want to work for. This can affect when you should apply, as it's too late to apply to start in March (although there will be a very tiny number of jobs) and too early to apply to start in September.

[Yasuke]

Thanks for the information. But why is the certificate impossible?

[Non Sequitur]

[Bud Powell]

Yasuke,

You just received an excellent beginning to finding the answers to fill in any remaining blanks.

There are lots of other things you need to know about China. First of all, China is a long, long way from Kansas. You can't just come over and "set up". It doesn't work that way.

You say that you don't want to work with with a recruiter "after a very odd negotiation and job offer". You're basing your distrust/dislike of recruiters upon (apparently) one experience. If you make decisions based upon such scant experience, you'll have to depend upon others during your entire stay in China (if you actually make it over). To live in China requires a LOT of self-reliance and resourcefulness.

This forum has a search function. Use it and see what you can find.

What I find odd is that you said that you experienced "a very odd negotiation and job offer". It's not likely that you had much of an offer or negotiation if you haven't shared information with the recruiter that you'll ultimately have to supply in order to secure a Z visa, letter of invitation, and a residence permit. Recruiters won't waste time with you until you supply everything that vikeologist listed. You might want to try working with a recruiter to find out why you can't do what you want to do. Ask the recruiter questions.

Your story and request doesn't pass the smell test. My reply may seem to be a rough response, but your question is asked about every three days in this forum by people whose intention is to troll.

[Yasuke]

Anyone else here who has had success in China avoidng recruiters and finding good employment?

[Yasuke]

Anyone else here who has had success in China avoidng recruiters and finding good employment?

[Toast]

Many people have found jobs this way, but it takes a lot more work / persistence. Googling colleges /universities (assuming you're looking for these kinds of jobs) in a city or area you're looking at will give websites - often with an English page with a "Job Opportunities" menu. Should lead you to an email contact which may or may not be up to date. Fire away.

Loads of websites will have jobs advertised directly by employers. echinacities or eslemployment off the top of my head. You'll need to filter through the recruiters though.

At the risk of sounding too blunt as N.S said most posters here might avoid replying to this thread as the topics have been discussed time and time again. The search function on this site doesn't work for shit, but spend a few hours reading through the first few pages here and you'll likely find it answers most of the early questions you have.

[NoBillyNO]

[johntpartee]

[Yasuke]

Thanks for the useful information.

[doogsville]

[Yasuke]

Thanks for taking the time doogsville. Would you elaborate on the langue mill and univerity?

[davelister]

4 jobs from applications to online job ads, including on this site. 1 job a mate 'head-hunted' me (I joined his operation after my then current contract had expired).

The problem with many job ads is that the employer or agency keeps advertising just to keep CVs rolling in to be on hand when they want them.

I wouldn't dispute anyone's positive experience of using an agent, but I never will use one. Many have been messed around by agents, and I know of cases where teachers had ridiculous costs to be paid to their recruiters through their wages. I don't understand why anyone would pay for a middle-man, making the process more not less complicated.

Job ad - send CV n scans of other docs - if they like you and have a suitable vacancy - Skype interview - patient hoop jumping z visa process - fly - land - employer gets you your Resident permit. Bob's your mother's brother. Bish, bash, bosh. Squeak, simples! Steamed bread for breakfast, rice for lunch and noodles for dinner. First words to learn: xie xie and bu yao.

[doogsville]