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How To Deal With Snobby, Spoiled, Students?
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Gummy Bear



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: How To Deal With Snobby, Spoiled, Students? Reply with quote

I am teaching VIP students in China but this can apply anywhere. How do you keep control of your class and your sanity when these university and high school kids driving Beemers and Porsches and pay you $75 an hour, tell you "Hold Up Teach" so they can take a call on their mobile phone or start texting for 1o minutes at a crack?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find arriving late and flustered to the classroom with blood dripping from my hands and spattered on my shirt, a mad look in my eye, a wild, threatening expression usually adds extra zest to my demands that they TURN THEIR GODDAMNED PHONE OFF BEFORE I TOTALLY SKITZ OUT.

That and having a school admin phone confiscation policy...
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: How To Deal With Snobby, Spoiled, Students? Reply with quote

Gummy Bear wrote:
I am teaching VIP students in China but this can apply anywhere. How do you keep control of your class and your sanity when these university and high school kids driving Beemers and Porsches and pay you $75 an hour, tell you "Hold Up Teach" so they can take a call on their mobile phone or start texting for 10 minutes at a crack?


If they want to pay me $12.5 to send a text...fine by me.
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start strict with seriosu rules and have the studetns paste the rules into their books on the first day of class with clear penalties for breakting the rules and then when they break the rules tell all students to open the front page of the book and read out the rules and then penalize their butt! Twisted Evil

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Hod



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you've mentioned $75 an hour, it obviously has a bearing on how you feel. If you felt strongly enough about this rudeness, which it is, then you'd tell them to find another teacher. If you really need the cash, though, don't worry about it. You're being paid whilst they talk on the phone. Sounds great. Don't stress it.

Isn't this a bit like the well-meaning junior doctor helping his 300lb alcoholic smoker patient to manage his blood pressure and diabetes? You can only do so much, but some people don't help themselves.
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Big Worm



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's really nothing you can do except quit, which will mean nothing to anyone but you.

At that point they are customers. who don't care about the class. and will get auto passes cuz they are customers. penalizing them will cause them to complain about you. They will be right, you will be wrong (customers).

If they don't take it seriously, you have to adjust how seriously you take it.
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey some people say that yuo can do nothign but this is not true. If it is a prviate lesson then don't care about it but if you have otehr students maybe those students are angry, so you can appeal to them to help you. Cool
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have intimated it all depends on whether the cash is enough to prostitute yourself, if not then quit, if yes then stop stressing and bank the money.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MuscatGary wrote:
As others have intimated it all depends on whether the cash is enough to prostitute yourself, if not then quit, if yes then stop stressing and bank the money.


Seconded.

I find that usually the cash is not worth it though, so I shut it down and tell 'em: "it's been real, it's been fun...it hasn't been real fun."

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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simon44



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I teach teenagers like that, I lock the classroom door at the start of the lesson - anyone who arrives late cannot get in and ends up being collared by the Principal.

If anyone uses their laptop or mobile phone without permission, then said items go in the classroom rubbish bin.

My students probably think I'm crazy, but it solved the problem of unruly male, teenagers and we all have a good laugh at anyone who dares to break those rules.

Simon
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today some boys in my junior high sclass said I was shoing favourims to the girls. One called me "Lolikon"! Shocked

I don't do that! I am just angry with the boys more becaue of their bad behavour. Evil or Very Mad

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Lack



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really deal with it. I just take the path of least resistance at my job. This is China. I'm not getting paid to teach. And if a student is not interested, there's truly nothing a teacher can do. You can take a kid's phone away and force him to sit down, but you can't make him learn. So I just do what I can. Darn, though, I want $75 an hour for lessons. I'll let them do whatever they want! Smile
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sixthchild



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly in most private schools that pay even half decent Money, this is the bs you have to put up with and it always amazes me when at the interview you ask the school admin panel about the school discipline policy and how it is implemented and what role do you play in that process and the steps to make it enforceable!
The silence is usually deafening, after about 3-5 minutes of embarrassing squirming from the other side of the room, I get up and say "bye folks, find another sucker"!
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sixthchild wrote:
Sadly in most private schools that pay even half decent Money, this is the bs you have to put up
That's just the thing - in a low paying job most people would throw up their hands in despair and walk out, muttering "they don't pay me enough to put up with this bs", where as in a higher paying job one may "put up with" a lot more. Of course "put up with" thresholds will differ from person to person.

I wish I could answer the OP's question of how to control a class, but that was not exactly my forte. Fortunately, in 3.5 years of teaching in Asian, I never really had a major problem with the entire class, only with a few individuals, and even with them it was only because they were becoming a distraction to the others. To be sure, even individual problem students can cause a lot of stress, and even though I earned a reputation as being "patient", I was actually on the verge of cracking more than a few times. Adolescents are skilled at pushing buttons, and it can drive one to drink.
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whimsical1



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeKing wrote:
To be sure, even individual problem students can cause a lot of stress...... Adolescents are skilled at pushing buttons, and it can drive one to drink.


This is true everywhere! I teach middle school currently in the US. Talk about spoiled, snotty, disrespectful kids! I can't wait to get out of here and try something new, somewhere else!
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