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Best advanced degree or program to work on

 
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Best advanced degree or program to work on Reply with quote

I had a job offer in China at a University that fell through when the provincial office declined my application. I have since decided to get either some kind of masters degree, or certificate.
I
would love some guidance as to what might open up the most doors for me.
I'd like options to work all over.

I am 42 years old
BA I. Sociology minor speech communication
16 years experience as a tennis teacher.

Thanks for any and all ideas. [/list]
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Best advanced degree or program to work on Reply with quote

nellychess wrote:
I have since decided to get either some kind of masters degree, or certificate.

"Some kind" of degree or cert is vague. What is it you want to teach---to do?
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to teach English to children and/or adults. I also would like to be able to work in many countries.
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start with a CELTA or equivalent certificate. Get some experience. Go for the masters in a couple of years once you know for sure it's what you want to do.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with HLJHLJ. Get the CELTA and head overseas to gain some experience first before considering an MA. I suggest Korea and not China for your first teaching job---better money and experience on your CV.
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haopengyou



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, by all means, get some kind of TEFL/TESOl certification. If you think you want to live abroad for "a while" (several years, etc) I would strongly suggest that you get your certification in a face to face situation. It seems that more and more schools are declining online TESOL certs - maybe too many diploma mills out there? Yes, with only experience teaching tennis and no cert you would be denied a visa. I have never been to Korea but they do seem to have a more structured system for getting hired, paid etc. That said, if you want to teach children - especially primary school - there are a lot of openings in China for that. The TEFL cert will not only make it easier to get a job but will make your teaching life easier.
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice everyone. Does anyone know if you can get a federal(USA) student loan to complete CELTA?

Otherwise, would there be an equivalent course I could take at a University here?

The problem is that I am pretty broke, and am working. If I could get a student loan to work on some kind of degree, or certification, then I could still work, and have a bit of a nest egg before I head off somewhere.

Thanks again.
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astrickland



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try just getting a loan at a bank or credit union. The tuition cost for my TEFL course was $2000 which I didn't have at the time so I went to my credit union and they gave me a small loan.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellychess wrote:
Thanks for the advice everyone. Does anyone know if you can get a federal(USA) student loan to complete CELTA?

Otherwise, would there be an equivalent course I could take at a University here?

A CELTA course doesn't qualify for a federal student loan---it's not an academic program. Consider looking into a university grad cert in TESOL program in your city, preferably one that's on campus and includes a supervised practicum. Obviously, it will take longer to complete than a CELTA, and it costs more. However, you'd receive credits toward an MA if you find you want to stay in the field.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with nomad soul about checking at a local university about a grad TESOL certificate. Many MA TESOL programs offer a certificate program also, and often the classes are in the evening so that people who work during the day can attend. However, at this point, you will likely need to wait until the fall to start, and then it will take at least a semester to finish. Check around though, as you might find someplace that has summer classes.

nellychess wrote:
The problem is that I am pretty broke, and am working. If I could get a student loan to work on some kind of degree, or certification, then I could still work, and have a bit of a nest egg before I head off somewhere.

When you do go abroad, make sure you go with a bit of money saved up. Depending on where you go, there might be set-up costs when you first arrive. Also (and more importantly), you should always keep enough for an emergency, last-minute plane ticket home, in case you need it.
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome advice. Would one of those certificares inTESOL do the same for me worldwide as far as having that credential? Meaning meet criteria for getting a job and getting a visa?
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rtm



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellychess wrote:
Awesome advice. Would one of those certificares inTESOL do the same for me worldwide as far as having that credential? Meaning meet criteria for getting a job and getting a visa?
It depends on what the certificate/course offers, and what employers (or immigration officials) ask for. So, it'll vary a lot depending on where you get the certificate and where you intend to go.

Either way, it should give you a better idea of what you are doing in an EFL classroom.
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ttxor1



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Eapling/TESL_cert.html
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nellychess:

Yes, there are other TEFL certs that, like a CELTA, provide at least 120 hours of face-to-face instruction and that crucial supervised/assessed teaching practice with real students. Some employers accept these generic TEFL certs while others still prefer to see CELTA, SIT TESOL, or Trinity indicated on an applicant's CV.
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