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Californiaz



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:54 am    Post subject: Sending Original Diploma in the Mail Reply with quote

The school that has offered me a job wants me to send my original diploma so I can apply for a Z-Visa here.

Is this standard procedure and has anyone done it before?

I'll be sending it in a little over 12 hours from now.
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KidfromBrooklyn



Joined: 15 Aug 2006
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Location: Behind the Bamboo Firewall

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:48 am    Post subject: No, not S.O.P. Reply with quote

Usually a copy suffices. Protect your original. If they don't accept your decision to send a copy. Find another job. ASAP. There's a lot out there. Wink

Please PM me with the name of this school........
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no reason to send anyone your originals. Ever.

It is possible, though unlikely, that the PSB will want to see an original before granting an RP BUT....you will already be in China under a Z visa at that point. Do not agree to send an original of anything.
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teenoso



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree , it's not standard procedure , and not safe , IMO. What happens if there is a problem with the application or the deal falls through - do you really think they will send your certificate back ?

Maybe this is a translation problem ? ('send us your diploma'). I have always scanned a photo of the certificate, and sent that , it is enough.

Or it could be you are dealing with a new FAO who does not know the ropes ...
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chinaroman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a really bad idea! Don't do it!
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Californiaz



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have the two years working experience and I'm applying to a first tier city maybe thats why?

The only other original they wanted was my background check

They also wanted copy of passport and a photo of me for some application obviously.
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KidfromBrooklyn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:06 am    Post subject: Maybe yes maybe no...... Reply with quote

and maybe they want to know what kind of paper its printed on so they can duplicate it.......Maybe?
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Banner41



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My diploma is oversized and professionally framed. So, I would of course never send it anywhere. I took a digital copy and scanned it. I have never needed more than that. You can always ask your University for copies of your official transcript if you don't mind them seeing your grades. It usually comes with an official stamp on it which they love here.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never needed the original diploma (anywhere in the world, for that matter) and never needed a background check (in China). Where is this place, OP?
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Californiaz



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
Never needed the original diploma (anywhere in the world, for that matter) and never needed a background check (in China). Where is this place, OP?


I'm on my phone so I can't do very detailed replies

Its Beijing, background checks are now required via July 1 2013 visa law, as is 2 years exp.

Ive heard of people get around the exp requirement not the background check so far. Mines clean so im fine on that front

I dont see why they would request the original if they didnt need it. They got my passport copy and info its more tham enough to steal my identity. Other than "finding the paper its printed on" I dont see the reason to fear. I can get a new one from my uni for 50 bucks.

Please advise though I really want this job. T minus 8 hrs on the package
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have been advised by several folks not to send the original.

But of course you are free to do as you like.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As employer already knows you don't have the required experience it can't be to compare graduation year with your stated length of post grad exp.
I'd put it down to inexperience in the FAO.
Don't make a meal of it, just politely decline for 'security reasons'.
Maybe offer a notarized copy as a fallback.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings from Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

I agree with all of the above.

I was asked for my originals from my current university in China so in U.S. and A. last summer, I went to a Kinko's and made really nice color copies of my diplomas and cut them down to size and submitted those. They sufficed.

I would never ever send my originals through the mail to anybody. As has already been mentioned here, at the very least, what if they did get "lost"? Sure, you can get replacements for fifty bucks, but who wants to shell out fifty bucks for this?

I wouldn't send the originals, regardless of how enticing the job offer may be.

Just my two renminbi.

Warm regards,
fat_chris


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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Maybe yes maybe no...... Reply with quote

KidfromBrooklyn wrote:
and maybe they want to know what kind of paper its printed on so they can duplicate it.......Maybe?


Laughing

+1

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if the schools doesn't send it back? You'll need to send it to the Chinese consulate in your home country in order to secure a visa. If you are in-country, nobody needs to see more than a scan.

Recommendation: keep moving.
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