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Driving dangerous to (women's) health
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johnslat



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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Driving dangerous to (women's) health Reply with quote

Once again, a brave voice steps forward to counter degenerate Western propaganda and show that the prohibition against women drivers is NOT discriminatory but is instead yet another instance of how protective Saudi men are of their ladies' health and well-being

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24323934

Regards,
John
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Wilsonthefarmer



Joined: 13 Nov 2012
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Location: Riding my black horse

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If a woman drives a car, not out of pure necessity, that could have negative physiological impacts as functional and physiological medical studies show that it automatically affects the ovaries and pushes the pelvis upwards," Sheikh Lohaidan told the news website Sabq.org.

What? Does Sheikh Lohaidan hold any medical qualification?
He did not backup his above statement with any medical evidence?
So, according to his statement, also women passengers in a car can have negative physiological impacts as well!
Double idiot!

Does it mean that when I ride my black horse or my bicycle it will make me infertile, because it will push my pelvis upwards! Laughing
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spiral78



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Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the physical difference between riding in a car and driving one in this respect? I can't imagine that it would impact one's pelvis any differently - the pelvis not having any direct involvement in the process of driving a car in any of my years of experience....

Yikes, I'm agreeing with Wilson......... Shocked
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trapezius



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People, you missed the best part:

Quote:
"That is why we find those who regularly drive have children with clinical problems of varying degrees."


Has he ever stepped inside a hospital in SA? Women don't drive here, so how come children in this country also have various clinical problems? So do children in communities in other countries where people are too poor to afford cars.

What the hell? Am I actually trying to rebut his ridiculous argument? I should have just quoted him and let it be Rolling Eyes

So anyway, this is the key:

Quote:
Sheikh Lohaidan is reported to be opposed to reform more generally and granting women more rights in the kingdom.

Opponents of giving women the right to drive in Saudi Arabia say it offends the country's traditional code.


And to maintain the status quo, they will say whatever they have to, no matter how utterly ludicrous. Next thing, some other scholar will make up another silly reason why women shouldn't drive. Such as, driving will make women promiscuous and turn them into prostitutes. Oh wait, that's already been said a few times in the past few years. We need some inventive new ridiculous reasons why women shouldn't drive.
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
We need some inventive new ridiculous reasons why women shouldn't drive.


I think they are worried the women will show them up re. driving ability. The female drivers I see in other Gulf countries always seem very sensible and considerate. I read a forum debate about this subject and a Saudi woman wrote, "Well we can't do any worse than the men." Very Happy
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If women were allowed to drive, they would have to create special lanes and highways just for female drivers. After all segregation is big business!
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Segregation is just plain bad for women's health Reply with quote

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After all segregation is big business!

On a related note...

Family blames Saudi gender segregation rules for student's death
By Angus McDowall & Sami Aboudi, Reuters | Feb 7, 2014
Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/07/us-saudi-student-idUSBREA160XB20140207

(Reuters) - The family of a Saudi woman student who died of heart problems has said her university prevented medics from getting to her in time because of rules barring men from the women-only part of the campus, Saudi media reported. The King Saud University in Riyadh denied the accusation and said Amena Bawazir, who had a history of heart disease, received quick medical attention after suffering a stroke last Sunday, causing her heart and lungs to stop functioning.

The case has revived memories of a 2002 incident in which 15 schoolgirls in Jeddah died in a fire after the Saudi morality police sent them back into the building because they were not veiled.

Al-Arabiya television's news website quoted Amena's sister, Fahda Bawazir, as saying that medics arrived at a campus gate shortly after her sister fell ill at around 11 a.m. "But the medics were not allowed to enter the campus until 1 p.m.," she said, in a report published late on Thursday. She said university authorities kept them outside until a gate was secured in a way "that did not allow the (male) medics and females in the building to mix."

A university spokesman denied there was any delay, saying campus medics attended the girl and when they failed to revive her they called in medics from a local hospital, according to the sabq.org news website. It quoted the spokesman, Ahmed al-Tamimi, as saying those medics arrived at the scene at 12:45 p.m., 10 minutes after they were called. Failing to revive her on the spot, they took Amena to the university hospital where she was pronounced dead at 13:39 p.m.

"As the university issues this correction, it asserts its responsibility towards all male and female students and its serious efforts to preserve their lives and safety," Tamimi said.

Saudi Arabia adheres to the Wahhabi brand of Islam, which forbids mixing between men and women and restricts women's movements, often requiring the permission of a male guardian.

(End of article)
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PeterParvo



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the song says, it's a mad world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4[/url]
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tell you what, cycling can damage a men's nether regions while women tend to enjoy it as much as they do on horseback Wink

This weekend I came across this amusing and cute vlog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czeYUD0z_g

Hehe. The beardo weirdos will go ballistic!
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa wrote:
This weekend I came across this amusing and cute vlog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czeYUD0z_g

I liked her... very cute and pretty honest, I'd say. Reminded me of many of my female students in the Gulf.

VS
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEWS FLASH - Not wearing and abaya and full head covering can also be injurious to women's health according to the Saudi Health Inquiry Team. Exposure to the sun whilst outdoors can lead to skin cancer whilst exposure to eight hours of ultra-violet light emissions from fluorescent tubes can also damage skin cells.
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
jaffa wrote:
This weekend I came across this amusing and cute vlog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czeYUD0z_g

I liked her... very cute and pretty honest, I'd say. Reminded me of many of my female students in the Gulf.

VS


Refreshing to see such a bright personality, although she has been Britishified. I've met quite a few men who have spent years outside KSA and they were nothing like her.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaffa... do you know for sure that she is Saudi? I didn't see it mentioned on this page or on her Facebook page. I didn't really look much further.

VS
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Jaffa... do you know for sure that she is Saudi? I didn't see it mentioned on this page or on her Facebook page. I didn't really look much further.

VS


Yeah, she mentions it in another clip. She went to the UK when she was 4 and I doubt she's going back anytime soon.
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bigdurian



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="veiledsentiments"]Jaffa... do you know for sure that she is Saudi? I didn't see it mentioned on this page or on her Facebook page. I didn't really look much further.

VS[/quote]

Yeah, she is Saudi, she talks about spending time there with her family in another video.
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