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Lizorus123



Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Location: US

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Moving with pets Reply with quote

I'm wondering if anyone can give some advice or input: I have a German Shepard dog that would be coming with me. He's well behaved, 1 year old, but pretty big (not a purse dog) Very Happy
I would prefer to teach in the Middle East, preferably an Arabic speaking country- I know the cultural and religious norms there aren't "pro-doggie" but I'm wondering if anyone has had experience trying to move to a ME country (Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, N Africa) with a dog.
I'm most concerned about not being able to find housing because of him.

My other question: what other countries or regions would people say are pet friendly, especially in regards to being able to find housing and overall friendliness towards a dog.?

Thanks so much!
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best region I know for dogs is probably off-limits to you, assuming you are a US citizen. North Western (and to some degree, central) Europe is fantastic for dogs. Talking Netherlands, Germany, Czech Rep, Austria especially. They're not only welcome by many landlords, but most public areas also allow them (most shops, restaurants, hotels, etc.).

Unfortunately, on the list above if you are a US passport holder only, the Czech Rep is the only place you are likely to find legal work.
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Moscow seems to be OK for dog owners. Don't have one myself, but Muscovites seem to love the beasts. The bigger, the better.

Personally, I think they are better served guarding the laagers...
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nomad soul



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Posts: 11454
Location: The real world

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving with pets Reply with quote

Lizorus123 wrote:
I would prefer to teach in the Middle East, preferably an Arabic speaking country- I know the cultural and religious norms there aren't "pro-doggie" but I'm wondering if anyone has had experience trying to move to a ME country (Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, N Africa) with a dog.
I'm most concerned about not being able to find housing because of him.

The Gulf might be doable if your qualifications are strong (e.g, relevant MA + several years of teaching EFL at the tertiary level). The better benefit packages, some including pet-friendly housing, go to those with solid quals. However, employers in the Middle East countries you listed, particularly the Levant, rarely hire from abroad because they produce their own very capable English language teachers.

Additionally, Egypt, Palestine, and parts of Lebanon are quite unstable given the socio-political situation in this region. If you have to evacuate, good luck trying to get your beloved pup out as well. I was teaching in one of the so-called Arab Spring countries three years ago and had to suddenly leave when the situation became quite volatile. Fortunately, I didn't have any pets, but if that had been the case, I would have had to leave them behind given the circumstances. That said, where you prefer to teach may not be feasible if you expect to bring your pet along. I suggest you research what's going on in this part of the Middle East---housing for your big pup may be the least of your concerns.
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grahamb



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:13 pm    Post subject: Drinking on duty? Reply with quote

Are you sure that's "laager" with double "l", Sasha? Wink
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peripatetic_soul



Joined: 20 Oct 2013
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:04 pm    Post subject: Moving with pets Reply with quote

Hello,
Some important questions to answer before deciding to transport your beloved pet to another country:
1) Can you find decent dog food at affordable prices and consistency for your pet? Supermarkets can run out of inventory or prices can be prohibitive.
2) Will there be a reputable, affordable vet nearby who can provide all the services your pet may need?
3) Will the accommodations be adequate space for your large pet? Will there be an outdoor area for your pet to exercise with safety? E.g., many ex-pat petowners in one ME area were distraught when they learned the form of animal population control was poison and their pet had perished
4) Will you be able to find decent care for your pet should you desire to travel during holidays? Don't count on a nanny. I've heard horror stories there as well.
5) Will your pet be able to tolerate the heat or other conditions of the country?
6) Will you be able to afford cost of microchipping, international vet affirmation, country processing fees, airline-approved crate, etc.?
Please know that each country has its own strict guidelines about transporting pets INTO their region. It is often a very laborious, time-intensive and expensive one. Many ME countries require that your pet travel via "cargo" status which is very costly and not necessarily safe in spite of third party agents promising you otherwise. For one, I'd never use certain airlines in the US for transporting a pet. As for third party agents, numerous scans abound. You can find all you need to know at this website: actionpetexpress.com. I won't name the airlines here but there are many outstanding lawsuits for negligence. I don't mean to burst your bubble but after I researched the country where I was going, it was apparent that my pet was safer and better taken care of by family.
As other posters here have indicated, Europeans love their pets but it is not quite the same at all in the ME. Good luck. You can PM me if you have any specific questions.
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MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hundreds of people drive across the US-Mexico boarder with a dog everyday. I know many teachers who keep dogs, some of the dogs are US born, some Mexican born.
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grahamb



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:19 pm    Post subject: Pets Reply with quote

If your accommodation is provided by your employer, find out in advance if you'll be allowed to keep a pet.
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: Speling misstake Reply with quote

I meant to say "laager" with a double "a".

Red wine interfering with my system. Embarassed
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