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Teaching Contract with 60% summer and 80% winter salary. OK?
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Teaching Contract with 60% summer and 80% winter salary. OK? Reply with quote

A major company that supplies assistant language teachers to public schools has contracts that pay 60% salary during summer vacation and 80% salary during winter vacation.

Is that the norm in Japan?

Is it fair?
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rtm



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching Contract with 60% summer and 80% winter salary. Reply with quote

I'm not sure if it's the norm yet, but it's becoming more and more common in Japan. It's definitely not unusual.

Whether it is fair or not is a matter of personal opinion. How much would you be expected to work during summer or winter vacation? If you are expected to do 60%/80% of your normal work load (or less), then I'd say it's fair.
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kah5217



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know which company you're talking about.....

From personal experience, I was eating cup ramen the month I received that 60% paycheck. After bills were taken out, it was quite a small take home.
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also know which company you are referring to as I worked for them for three years. I was fine for money, even had enough for a couple holidays in Asia.

In your first year in Japan you'll pay very low taxes so you should be fine, for your second year though, you might want to think about getting a second job.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the JET Program have this 60% / 80% salary scheme?
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steki47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished a contract with that company. They paid me 75% in December but I was scheduled to work 4 weeks or the majority of the month. My previous company paid me 100% in December but I only worked 3 weeks.

Yeah, those numbers are common if not happy times for the employee.
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marley'sghost



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the norm for dispatch ALTing. I think my December/August paychecks are 75%. I don't complain, as I have had maybe one day of work in August in 10 years. (Though I have no doubt my company gets a full 100% for for those months from the BOE.) These last 5-6 years they've been chiseling an extra week off of March by having our contracts start a week into it, as they don't need us until school really starts after spring break.
@Black Beer Man- no pay cuts for JETs. At least I don't remember it being cut when I was in the program back in the day. JET salaries and perks (they flew us here Business class, not any more....) have come down since then. Only the sweetest of sweet direct hire gigs will get you anything close to JET pay.
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kah5217



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right. I forgot to mention that those two months aren't the only ones cut. In total, April, August, December, and March are reduced pay. I got shafted worse in April because my BOE didn't start until a week after most others. Given that you won't get your first full pay until the end of June, it's very rough. You get paid at the end of May, but it's a reduced check and the bills are still taken out. I only had 5 man left after rent and car payment.
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, multiply your monthly salary by eleven and you get your rough annual salary.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it isn't the norm. The norm is to pay you nothing for the periods when you don't work. As a direct hire ALT I get almost nothing in the summer.

Is it fair? I think you have to look at the whole package to answer that question. Is the commitment they expect from you commensurate with the commitment they offer you in return?

In my case, the Board of Education I work for is very clear that I am employed by the hour. This has its advantages and its drawbacks. When the school is closed, I get nothing. But if, say, a teacher wants me to stay after school to give students Speech Contest practice, the expectation is that I will be allowed to go home early on another day, to make up the hours. And if I say, "Sorry, I can't stay in after school on Wednesday because I'm booked to teach a private class." then they will respect that.

So in my case, I think it's pretty fair. YMMV.
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Ryu Hayabusa



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to say what the "norm" is, Pitarou, since we don't have information from every board of education in Japan. The best we can do is offer what we know and what we have heard and let readers draw their own conclusions.

In Osaka prefecture and Osaka City, direct hire positions pay 303, 000yen per month and offer 20 paid days off per year. If you don't use your paid holidays, you only get a week in August and public holidays off. They would be using every single day of their paid leave in the process, but with strategic use, a person could have all of August off and two weeks off in the winter--fully paid.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryu Hayabusa wrote:
In Osaka prefecture and Osaka City, direct hire positions pay 303, 000yen per month and offer 20 paid days off per year. If you don't use your paid holidays, you only get a week in August and public holidays off.

What do the ALTS do while school's out in August? Or is the school year different in Osaka?
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pitarou wrote:
No, it isn't the norm. The norm is to pay you nothing for the periods when you don't work. As a direct hire ALT I get almost nothing in the summer.

So in my case, I think it's pretty fair. YMMV.


It's not the norm, it's your specific situation. You don't know what every BoE does. There is no norm - not for ALTs or university teaching contracts. They span the spectrum in terms of salary, bonuses, benefits, hours, duties and being either non-renewable or permanent positions.

However, you're quite fortunate that you're a direct hire. Are there any limits on your contract renewals?

Years ago, I thought a direct BoE hire was a chump job, but now it's considered to be one of the best jobs around.
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryu Hayabusa wrote:
In Osaka prefecture and Osaka City, direct hire positions pay 303, 000yen per month and offer 20 paid days off per year.


Back in the 1990s, I knew people who left eikaiwa to work for BoE as direct hires and they were starting at ¥350,000 a month. I don't recall annual leave, but I assume it was paid summer and winter with probably minor duties required.

Ryu, still, that's a great job by today's standards for TEFL teachers in Japan.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:
Pitarou wrote:
The norm is to pay you nothing for the periods when you don't work.

It's not the norm

Yeah, I overstated it. But I don't think it's atypical.
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However, you're quite fortunate that you're a direct hire. Are there any limits on your contract renewals?

Not to my knowledge. We're permatemps.

We have to go through a complicated dance every year which, AFAICT, is designed to prevent us from gaining any workers' rights.
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