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How to negotiate for higher salary
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drjtrekker



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uni does not negotiate...but the starting pay is higher than any other uni besides intl'...

they always are on the hunt for Qualified peeps.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's about telling us peeps who they be?
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3701 W.119th



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it ever acceptable to refer to money as 'cheese' during contract negotiations? I've seen it quite a bit on American television.

It's a quandary. I love 'actual' cheese, and cash money too, but I don't want to cross any cultural wires.

Cheese is great.
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheese is great, but no.
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GreatApe



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ 3701 W. 119th Laughing

I would have to agree with you! ... cheese, and money, and BACON!
... three of the greatest things Life has to offer!

(but STILL, no).

--GA
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drjtrekker



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the peep is smart, the peep should be able to figure something out, eh????
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GreatApe



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... depends entirely on the peep, methinks.

--GA
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drjtrekker



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes GA, yes....

"Not all peeps are created the same...."
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GreatApe



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree!

--GA
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Highlander.Mark



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im at a Language Mill at the moment would be interested to hear what differences you guys at the unis experience. Do you have to do much in terms of prep for your classes ? What are the class sizes ?
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highlander.Mark wrote:
Im at a Language Mill at the moment would be interested to hear what differences you guys at the unis experience. Do you have to do much in terms of prep for your classes ? What are the class sizes ?


Where I have taught, I have had to put in a fair amount of preparation work, largely because the "work books" don't contain enough content to support the class curriculum. In an oral English class, there might be a four-line situational dialog in a chapter, and that's all (provided, of course, that one is issued a work book). Usually, the business English courses are fairly comprehensive. You may, however, need to supplement vocabulary, and even provide English definitions for the vocabulary because in some cases the Chinese definitions don't really define the terms.

In the "comprehensive reading" classes, you'll have to read the stories and try to figure out the reasons for the questions provided by the book. Some books seem to have been written by people who either have minimal English skills themselves or have suffered some sort of head trauma.

If you find yourself teaching western history, forget about teaching both British history and American history in the same semester. Choose one and READ the BOOK and be prepared to assign notes because the books have a tendency to provide more information than the students really need. Be able to summarize chapters and be ready to answer questions. Some students are actually interested.

all universities and colleges for whom I have taught required a lesson plan which was an overly-detailed syllabus that outlined the course, or was a real daily lesson plan which the school expected me to turn in during the first week of classes. This always caused problems and conflict between administration and the FTs. The administration almost always backed down and allowed the FTs to turn in the lesson plan at the end of the term. If this turns out to be the case for you, be sure to create a daily form that will allow you to record the page numbers and general content of the class. Record that info immediately after class. Don't expect to have the time to create a lesson plan from memory at the end of the term.

No matter which course you teach in a public university, you'll probably find that you'll need to supplement almost all of the books that you've been given to work with.

Other university FTs may tell you otherwise, but they may be in special situations in which they believe that all they need to do is show up for class and tell jokes. The universities may not care because they've become accustomed to the schlub teacher who is there solely to collect a pay check.

If you're a serious teacher, you'll want to do a good job. That will likely entail extra effort on your part.
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davelister



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doughn't talk to the bean counter, when asking about bread, or you could go coconuts when they clam up. Talk to the big cheese about bringing home the bacon, he/she should lettuce know we're not going to be paid peanuts.
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wgmarker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the OP, here's how not to. I am currently recruiting and my school pays 12-15,000. I got a message from a teachers saying. "I am very qualified so I need 18,000". Any idea where his CV ended up? Rhymes with bash.
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mash?
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Banner41



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wgmarker wrote:
For the OP, here's how not to. I am currently recruiting and my school pays 12-15,000. I got a message from a teachers saying. "I am very qualified so I need 18,000". Any idea where his CV ended up? Rhymes with bash.


Know where the job advert would end up if they offered 12,000 instead of the 15,000? Yup same bash place.

Places always try to lure you in with a possible higher salary and "probation" you to drag out not paying you. Your qualifications are not going be suddenly 3,000 yuan a month better in 30 days. You either like my initial qualifications or you don't. None of this "range" garbage. I would be happy to do a demo.
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