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[mw182006]

I was in mortgages/banking for 10 years and pretty much left mine untouched. Just moved education to the top and added the TEFL cert. Don't over think it.

[3701 W.119th]

Cheers mw18.

I do massively over think, almost everything.

[Bud Powell]

"...i'm guessing you're shooting for the ordinary university oral english
teaching job.......you're not a degreed/certified/diplomafied teacher
in your hometown?

in that case, don't sweat the resume. it doesn't really matter..."

I believe that this is changing (perhaps not on the provincial level but on the university level). I know of one instance in which the City FAO actually referred a degreed but inexperienced FT to my college, only for the FAO to throw a fit and send the guy packing to get some sort of two-week certification. His predecessors were sent packing after it was discovered by the FAO that they had no degrees.

In my neck of the woods, FAO's are hearing it from degreed FTs. It's difficult to hide one's resentment when one finds out that someone with a Ph.D from Belford University of Life Experiences is making 50% more than another who possesses a BA or an MA from an accredited university. It's also tiresome to hear continual complaints from students about Foreign Teacher X who spends class time teaching students the meaning and use of obscenities and insults.

Several years back, somehow, a very disturbed FT slipped through and got hired at a university where I taught. It didn't take long for the school to catch on that the guy was a paranoid schizophrenic. How he managed to get a clean bill of health when he arrived is beyond me. Instances like this one may well be the reason why proof of health checks have been required upon application.

I believe that the tightened laws and policies are state attempts to cut down on the number of janitors and drunks who wind up in China. They'll always get through. I believe that the non-credentialed FTs elude detection because they have the smarts to teach. I've always believed that it doesn't take fancy paperwork to be a teacher; I've seen high schoolers teach the pants off Ph.Ds. I do believe, however, that deceit should not be rewarded.

[drjtrekker]

It's also tiresome to hear continual complaints from students about Foreign Teacher X who spends class time teaching students the meaning and use of obscenities and insults.

Wuts wrong with dat?
that's at least 1/3 of my semester...

[jm21]

Every job I inquired about turned out to be posted by a recruitment agency. I went through a few flakes but ended up using a gal called Missy (her skype handle) from Horizons recruitment. I think their job listings are updated regularly. Only problem was she thought that the Chinese visa regulations were coordinated and/or enforced which caused some confusion. E.g. they wanted me to do a medical exam and told me I should ask the Chinese embassy for a list of approved doctors, but after finally getting in touch with the embassy they said a medical exam isn't required. Do your own research on that part....and insist they send your resume to the employer even if they think you aren't qualified.

[Bud Powell]

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[thechangling]

The trouble with this statement is that China actually functions this way most of the time. 'Relationships' and 'face' are how the economy functions and lying is 'normal' within the culture as it is in South Korea and other places in asia. I don't condone it either. Maybe as westerners we are viewed differently and lying by us isn't expected or view as normal.

"In another thread, you admitted to having lied about your experience in order to get a job in Qindao".

[NoBillyNO]

[Bud Powell]

[Bud Powell]

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