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jimpellow
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| Frightening that 25 percent of the Earth's population thinks this way. |
Equally frightening is putting 1.4 billion people into a nutshell. |
Frightening that you are still not on ziprasidone. |
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LPKSA
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Again, sorry for your loss but if you have no other issues with the school I think folks don't need to be afraid to work there.
Good luck with your lawsuit though. Keep us updated on how that pans out for you. |
I would say this whole post is a fair warning to anyone who is offered a job by this company.
China brought Confucianism to the world. Confucianism stresses the importance of family and even more importantly, the importance of your parents.
They held the mans passport and he couldn't leave the country; essentially he was incarcerated during a family emergency. Pretty sure that the standard contract for FT's in China mentions something about being able to leave in the event of a death in the family. Can't understand why this all happened when in China it's detrimental to acknowledge and respect your parents at all times (this is an aspect of Chinese culture that stretches back for at least two thousand years). The man was ignored and blown off by his employer, and MISSED his mother's funeral as a result. That to me is a disgrace and should be a clear warning to anyone who is contemplating working for this company. An absolute disgrace. |
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| LPKSA wrote: |
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Again, sorry for your loss but if you have no other issues with the school I think folks don't need to be afraid to work there.
Good luck with your lawsuit though. Keep us updated on how that pans out for you. |
I would say this whole post is a fair warning to anyone who is offered a job by this company.
China brought Confucianism to the world. Confucianism stresses the importance of family and even more importantly, the importance of your parents.
They held the mans passport and he couldn't leave the country; essentially he was incarcerated during a family emergency. Pretty sure that the standard contract for FT's in China mentions something about being able to leave in the event of a death in the family. Can't understand why this all happened when in China it's detrimental to acknowledge and respect your parents at all times (this is an aspect of Chinese culture that stretches back for at least two thousand years). The man was ignored and blown off by his employer, and MISSED his mother's funeral as a result. That to me is a disgrace and should be a clear warning to anyone who is contemplating working for this company. An absolute disgrace. |
Sorry guy. Unless I missed something, I didn't read where he went to the PSB or school and requested his passport for immediate travel. If it was actually refused he could have turned to his consulate/embassy. They could have provided emergency travel documents if necessary.
Disgrace or not, it does not change the above.
Incarcerated? Confucianism? History? What are you rattling on about? Melodramatic much?
Nothing in this thread is a warning to rational individuals against working at this school. There are too many shady schools around to so blithely toss out a so called 'warning' about one. This kind of post does more harm than good.
Do not misunderstand me, I feel for the guy and his situation. More than you could know. Personally....when my Mother was in stage 4 lung cancer that had also spread into other organs, including her brain...and was dying...my wife was REFUSED a visa to travel to the U.S. As our daughter was only 5 months old at the time that refusal essentially meant I could not go home either. I made a difficult choice. I chose to be there for my wife and daughter instead of going home to watch my Mom die. She passed away last year on Valentine's Day. Two weeks after my wife's visa was refused. That sucked. Bad. But I made a choice and do not regret it. Like it or not, the OP also had and made a choice. He could have sat idle and waited or actively done something to speed his return home. He sat idle. Then cried about it and tried to lay blame at the feet of people who did not deserve it. Regardless of how the school handled the renewal process...the OP still had options he did not exercise.
The lawsuit.....is just unbelievable on so many levels.
I sympathize with him for his loss but do not comprehend his actions (or lack thereof) and do not agree with where he is trying to lay the blame. |
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JamesD
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Posts: 934
Location: "As far as I'm concerned bacon comes from a magical happy place."
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:43 am Post subject: Re: WARNING ... CIPTC in Shenzhen, China |
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| ....CIPTC delayed processing my new visa, and withheld my passport. I could not leave China until July 25..... |
I really would like to be sure of what happened.
You met with someone from the school admin and that person said, "We have your passport here but we will not give it to you. We will not let you leave China".
As has been said, if the passport is in the hands of the PSB then there's not much they COULD have done. The apology is a way of their saying they are sorry for the situation.
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A quick search turned up this info on a consulate site. I would guess it's a fast process if they know you need it for 'immediate travel'.
"You may apply for a second U.S. passport under certain specific conditions:
...........................;
a passport is needed for immediate travel is unavailable due to prolonged delays in processing a foreign visa application, ...................."
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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the story just doesn't make sense.......the "top teacher," the only
one out of 30 who gets a raise, re-signs a contract. the school that
wants that teacher to return refuses to return the passport? why?
to keep said teacher in the country an additional three weeks? why?
i can't see how school management would think that preventing the
teacher from attending a funeral would aid in retention. |
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LPKSA
Joined: 02 Mar 2014
Posts: 211
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| muffintop wrote: |
| LPKSA wrote: |
| muffintop wrote: |
Again, sorry for your loss but if you have no other issues with the school I think folks don't need to be afraid to work there.
Good luck with your lawsuit though. Keep us updated on how that pans out for you. |
I would say this whole post is a fair warning to anyone who is offered a job by this company.
China brought Confucianism to the world. Confucianism stresses the importance of family and even more importantly, the importance of your parents.
They held the mans passport and he couldn't leave the country; essentially he was incarcerated during a family emergency. Pretty sure that the standard contract for FT's in China mentions something about being able to leave in the event of a death in the family. Can't understand why this all happened when in China it's detrimental to acknowledge and respect your parents at all times (this is an aspect of Chinese culture that stretches back for at least two thousand years). The man was ignored and blown off by his employer, and MISSED his mother's funeral as a result. That to me is a disgrace and should be a clear warning to anyone who is contemplating working for this company. An absolute disgrace. |
Sorry guy. Unless I missed something, I didn't read where he went to the PSB or school and requested his passport for immediate travel. If it was actually refused he could have turned to his consulate/embassy. They could have provided emergency travel documents if necessary.
Disgrace or not, it does not change the above.
Incarcerated? Confucianism? History? What are you rattling on about? Melodramatic much?
Nothing in this thread is a warning to rational individuals against working at this school. There are too many shady schools around to so blithely toss out a so called 'warning' about one. This kind of post does more harm than good.
Do not misunderstand me, I feel for the guy and his situation. More than you could know. Personally....when my Mother was in stage 4 lung cancer that had also spread into other organs, including her brain...and was dying...my wife was REFUSED a visa to travel to the U.S. As our daughter was only 5 months old at the time that refusal essentially meant I could not go home either. I made a difficult choice. I chose to be there for my wife and daughter instead of going home to watch my Mom die. She passed away last year on Valentine's Day. Two weeks after my wife's visa was refused. That sucked. Bad. But I made a choice and do not regret it. Like it or not, the OP also had and made a choice. He could have sat idle and waited or actively done something to speed his return home. He sat idle. Then cried about it and tried to lay blame at the feet of people who did not deserve it. Regardless of how the school handled the renewal process...the OP still had options he did not exercise.
The lawsuit.....is just unbelievable on so many levels.
I sympathize with him for his loss but do not comprehend his actions (or lack thereof) and do not agree with where he is trying to lay the blame. |
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