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Banner41
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| roadwalker wrote: |
Wow, that's good to know that you could get a temporary passport even if the passport wasn't exactly lost. Thanks for the tip, banner41.
Newbies: never travel to a foreign country without sufficient means to return home, and then some more means for emergencies and living expenses. |
Yea, when my regular passport was ready, I picked it up and returned to the consulate and they punched holes through the temporary one to cancel it and gave it back to me. Souvenir I guess.
As far as the gate guard, you can call ahead to the consulate and they will put your name on the list at the gate. They are surprisingly good at answering the phone and a couple of times I did get to speak to an American. Just don't call during lunch, they wont answer. Lost/missing passports are seen as an emergency so they will see you any day even though they only take consulate service business a couple days a week. |
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| When the US Embassy in Vietnam gave you a temporary passport, were you refused service until you payed some kind of fee just to be seen by an American official? |
If they requested money for you to see an American official, you have a complaint....and told to leave by a guard just doesn't sound Kosher....
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| Back then (2011) it didn't take two weeks to process a visa. It took a matter of hours. A quick stop in Pudong Immi. office would have cleared it up, and it would have been available in a day or two. |
This is not the story now with longer wait times being normal.
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| Your post gave me a headache. |
From the sounds of your post, you're doing a fine job of that yourself! |
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johntpartee
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| Since I nearly overstayed my visa, immigration threatened to detain me |
Why? So that you WOULD overstay? |
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LPKSA
Joined: 02 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Since I nearly overstayed my visa, immigration threatened to detain me |
Why? So that you WOULD overstay? |
Exactly. The immigration officials were counting on me overstaying so they could get away with keeping me, and charging me every day I overstay, before finally kicking me out. Fortunately I had a student who out of the kindness of his own heart, and an understanding of a severely corrupt system, lent me the money to get out before overstaying. But I guess my acceptance of his offer makes me a beggar and deficient in understanding how to manage my own finances, when it clearly wasn't my fault that I was in this position to begin with, because it was my employer who was withholding my passport, and my pay, both of which were owed to me. I wouldn't be surprised if my employer and Immi. were greasing each other's palms in some way.
The system was/(maybe still is?) corrupt. Play by the rules, you will get burned. This is China, after all.
Hopefully the changes put in place recently can/will curb the possibilities of corruption. From the looks of what I have read about recent immigration policy changes, it seems that's the way China is going. This will surely leave a lot of foreigners with a sour taste in their mouths.
Regardless, no matter what I say on this form to justify that I did nothing wrong, or that the OP did nothing wrong, people are still going to post on here with this "you messed up, I'm grander than you, I can do no wrong" attitude. It's kind of pathetic, actually.
This is what happens when foreigners stay in China long enough and develop the sense that they are in some way superior to "newbies." They become jaded and have to stand behind this tit for tat mentality just to maintain according to their own standards, the notion that they are superior. They are quite shallow actually. Hang around China long enough and you will see exactly what I am talking about. It's even worse in South Korea.
OP, I am sorry for your loss, and I hope you prevail.
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Yes, you're right. Those who would have obtained emergency travel documents are the ones who are in the wrong. Those who simply sat on their behinds and waited for others to do things or those who managed to get kicked out of an embassy and were so broke that they had to borrow money from students to get home are clearly in the right.
This thread is full of lolz. |
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LPKSA
Joined: 02 Mar 2014
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Yes, you're right. Those who would have obtained emergency travel documents are the ones who are in the wrong. Those who simply sat on their behinds and waited for others to do things or those who managed to get kicked out of an embassy and were so broke that they had to borrow money from students to get home are clearly in the right.
This thread is full of lolz. |
Being that you replied to my post in less than ten minutes shows me that I must have hit you in a soft spot. Sorry the truth hurts. |
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muffintop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yup. That's what it must be. Stop hitting me in my soft spot! |
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LPKSA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| Yup. That's what it must be. Stop hitting me in my soft spot! |
I didn't hit you anywhere, not intentionally at least. You immediately pounced on me with two lines of jibberish followed by a bunch of emoticons. You clearly represent (through your initial claim that I was rattling on about whatever to begin with) the ideal jaded foreigner in China who thinks his **** don't stink, therefore entitled to belittle others who simply come here to express inadequacies in the system.
"You were nearly victimized by a corrupt system/or a series thereof, so it's all your fault."
Pathetic.
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| johntpartee wrote: |
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| Since I nearly overstayed my visa, immigration threatened to detain me |
Why? So that you WOULD overstay? |
Exactly. The immigration officials were counting on me overstaying so they could get away with keeping me, and charging me every day I overstay, before finally kicking me out.......... |
bwahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!
i betcha woulda wound up in even deeperer troubles if it weren't
for the china forrin teacheas onion! |
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renglish
Joined: 24 Feb 2014
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: Update |
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thank you for your support.
I have found a new position in China. I am teaching AP Calculus only. They have an AP Economics teachers. We are talking about adding an AP Computer Science course. There is demand.
As for the old company, there were many good questions here, and a few absurd comments and ridiculous assumptions made - too many for me to reply to all. I wonder how some people can make such assumptions. But then there are all kinds in the world.
The old company, CITPC, is still refusing to negotiate.They admiot the are 100% at fault, but feel no need to compensate me. They have not offered one yuan yet.
The staff often visit my profiles on www.teachingsz.com and linkedin.com but i do not know why. They have not been here or to the facebook page that I am aware of.
I have a translator to translate all the sms and emails into Chinese. They should be ready for court in mid to late April.
again, thanks for your support |
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NubianQueen
Joined: 04 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: company is not good |
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| IF you have other options take them. They are okay but have recently cut back the free transportation and housing is shared accomodation. Ray is a liar and bill is a racist. They do what they want and they are a large company most the people who work for them are retired who don't need the money. They will not help you if you get a bad school and are only good for giving you a visa. |
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Shanghai Noon
Joined: 18 Aug 2013
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Location: Shanghai, China
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| Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| In Shanghai the PSB will rush residence permit applications if you have an airplane ticket. Just show it to them when you apply. They will finish it in time. |
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Quite
Joined: 25 Mar 2015
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| No compassion and an empathy void is normal for China. Did you really expect more humanity from a Chinese employer? I regret your loss and extend my condolences, but after all... TIC. |
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