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blaz88 · Joined: 09 Nov 2010 Posts: 22

Looking for opinions on amount I should ask for in terms of salary to teach 88 hours a month plus other general English assistance to an IT company in Wroclaw.
There is no school involved. I do not want to spend 8 hours per day there either and they know this.

cheers

delphian-domine · Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 674

4000zl a month net on umowa o prace would be sensible. More if they're only willing to hire you under umowa zlecenie.

But I'd also be looking for your own desk there and to be treated as a proper employee. If they're looking for someone to come in and out, then I'd be asking for more simply because of the lack of security.

Janek · Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Krakow, Poland

delphian-domine · Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 674

Because any company with an ounce of sense knows that 120zl an hour for 88 hours is not realistic. It is what, 10k a month gross? No manager is going to sign that off, not when there are plenty of schools willing to supply natives for 65zl an hour who have experience in the corpo world.

dynow · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080

delphiandomine wrote:

blaz88 · Joined: 09 Nov 2010 Posts: 22

exactly, I have been teaching here in Wroclaw 6 years, 4000 is not even what I made when I was working just for a school, I am thinking 6500 min. Plus I don't want to be there 8 hours a day, they know this. Plus I won't be working fridays as I must travel every morning to a different city. I was wondering what does the school charge the company when they supply a native speaker? I have one contract in which I work for a school and teach in a company, I receive 60 zloty per 60 minutes. What profit does the school take?

Richfilth · Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 225 Location: Warszawa

You're putting a lot of restrictions on your flexibility with your demands, and it's going to affect the price. For example, you don't want to do an 8-hour day, or work Fridays. But there are only 20 or 21 working days in a month, and if you take 4/5 Fridays off that, you've got 16/17 days to fit in 88 hours of work - you're still going to be doing a solid block of 5-6 hours at a time, and in all likelihood some of your students will not fit into that window and will want to reschedule. Therefore you'll need to do at least one 8-hour day just to fit everybody in.

As for delph: you seriously suggesting a starting price of 4000 (45zl per hour?) It's advice like that that allows schools to continually drive down teachers' wages to an unsustainable point. I was earning more than 45zl per when I was first came here in 2004. Even 65zl is far too low - he should open the bidding at 100zl per hour and then offer a generous 10% discount for the bulk block of hours; provided, of course, that he can offer enough flexibility to give all the students the number of classes they want.

ecocks · Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland

My advice based upon the situation you outlined and assuming you're able to bill them for the services:

Tell them your available hours Monday through Thursday. Probably something similar to two class blocks then lunch then two more.

Explain to them that you're giving them a flat rate of 7000 pl per month (gross) plus materials charges (course and supplemental books, etc.).

For 70-75% of your work week, this seems about right unless they are requiring more administrative work or they want you doing a higher percentage of test prep/writing development which requires more grading activity.

As Delph says, I'd hit them up for a desk and chair, Internet access, hopefully a permanently assigned, reasonably-equipped classroom and access to a copier.

YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)

delphian-domine · Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 674