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likwid_777 · Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA

Ok, so I have mentioned this on these forums previously. I have tried to warn others away from ending up in the same situation.

But yes, out of naivety and/or stupidity, I worked on an incorrect visa in 2010. I got the "requested to leave China within 10 days" stamp in my passport. I was never locked up, nor fined. I have read so many conflicting things on the net. From what I can tell, I should probably be ok to return to China after five years.

Do you guys here on Dave's know anything about this? Happened to you or any of your friends/colleagues?

theoriginalprankster · Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 895

Extension visas are notoriously unreliable. Could be 10 days, could be 30. Might have to show you have loot inn the bank, might not.

Pack your bags, sell up, get ready to fly ASAP.

This Be China - TBC.

That said, I'd ending on a Z-visa, but who knows - the moody grunt at the office might give me 1-30 days to clear out. I'm prepping already.

likwid_777 · Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA

That was stamped in my passport after being caught working on an F Visa. Are these "request" stamps considered deportation? I don't think they are. It has been three years since I was "requested" to leave. I wonder if I can go back now, or perhaps when I finish my degree next year. I appreciate your response, Prankster, though I feel that we may not be on the same page.

Fei chang gan xie

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

Anything's possible, OP; it might show up as a red flag when you apply for the new visa or it might happen later when your employer tries to get the FEC or RP (I'm assuming you're returning for employment). This doesn't help much, I know, but as theoriginalprankster said: "TBC" (or, as it's sometimes rendered, "TIC").

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

you could (try to) contact someone at the chinese embassy/consulate
in your "hometown."

you could contact a visa agent.

you could just get yourself a new passport. you've probably got three
years or less remaining on yours.

dongbei united · Joined: 28 Feb 2014 Posts: 47

likwid_777 · Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA

Thanks for the posts, guys.

Yes, I have thought of "losing" the passport. But I have also managed to find that bans for this kind of thing usually last for only up to five years. Plus, given that it's the computer age, I don't want to lie and then get caught out lying.

"What exactly do you mean? They just now found out you were on an incorrect visa 4 years ago, or you got this stamp 4 years ago?

Sounds like they just found out, but it seems strange to prove unless you put in your resume that you worked during that time. What kind of visa did you have after the F visa expired in 2010?" -dongbei united

Sorry for my poor original post. This happened in late 2010. I am asking this question now, because I wonder if I can go back. I have almost finished my education degree now (one year to go). I was thinking, that even if I was banned for five years, that ban would almost be up by the time I finish my degree.

I had to leave China after they cancelled the F Visa in 2010, hence the title of the post "Requested to leave China within 10 days". That was the stamp which was placed in my passport. So, it was basically a "piss off now, or we'll fine you heavily and/or jail you". I am still yet to determine whether this actually counts as deportation or not. Some people say that it was not deportation, others assume it was. Some think that you have to be actually fined and jailed, then basically walked out to the airport in cuffs to be deported. I was not fined, jailed, or cuffed. I was merely "requested to leave China within 10 days". I was given the autonomy to get out of Dodge on my own steam.

Check this link out, it's not helpful, but this person had the same thing happen to him. Or, rather, he had the same thing stamped in his passport as a result of whatever happened to him.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110910035049AAZKiAU

Note the bracketed star, it appears on the stamp in my passport too.

(*) Visa "Requested to exit china within 10 days

Xie xie

Edit:

[img]http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2013/04/china-psb-visa-squad-march-madness.html[/img]

If that image works (if not, find it here http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.com/2013/04/china-psb-visa-squad-march-madness.html), according to these statistics, I would be banned for approximately one and a half years. That time has already lapsed. However, I would take these statistics with a large grain of salt, as in the whole shaker. But at least it's something... Not exactly a well covered topic on the internet. Yes, those stats come from the CFTU, which many think is a sham "organisation". That may be the case, but I don't have a wealth of info streaming in from many places at all.

RWA1981 · Joined: 27 Mar 2014 Posts: 143

Teachers have been warned for over a year what would happen if they got caught working on the wrong visa, and last year 359 were expelled for this. After the visa law changed in July 0f 2013, they started adding bigger fines and entry bans of 1-5 years. The kicker is that they can detain you until you pay your fine before deportation! My flatmate was hit with a $900 fine and he had to sit in detention for over a week while we tracked down his sister and she sent the money by Western Union and a prepaid plane ticket. And because he decided to argue with the PSB supervisor (blaming the school who told him it was okay to work on an L visa "temporarily"), they escorted him to the airport to make sure he got on the plane!

I think if he didn't argue they would have released him and given him the 10 days to leave on his own. On top of it all he got a 3 year reentry ban which really hurt since he just got engaged to his gf.