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Alien1982
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 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: Foreigners vs locals |
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Quick question. We all know that china is a country where the people have a superiority complex when it comes to us.
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In case of conflict with a foreigner, sense of unity among local people will prevail over the sense of right/wrong.
Which means if a local in china gets into a fist fight with a foreigner for example, other chinese people who just happen to be nearby will start attacking the foreigner as well. Whereas when it's just two chinese people in a fighht over something, most locals would either stand by and watch or just carry on with their business. But in a conflict with a foreigner, the chinese bystanders will usually jump in and help the chinese peraon attack the foreigner no matter who's fault it is.
Is Taiwan very much the same in that respect? |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| Alien1982 wrote: |
Quick question. We all know that china is a country where the people have a superiority complex when it comes to us.
For instance.
In case of conflict with a foreigner, sense of unity among local people will prevail over the sense of right/wrong.
Which means if a local in china gets into a fist fight with a foreigner for example, other chinese people who just happen to be nearby will start attacking the foreigner as well. Whereas when it's just two chinese people in a fight over something, most locals would either stand by and watch or just carry on with their business. But in a conflict with a foreigner, the chinese bystanders will usually jump in and help the chinese peraon attack the foreigner no matter who's fault it is. |
Not necessarily.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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Alien1982
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| fat_chris wrote: |
| Alien1982 wrote: |
Quick question. We all know that china is a country where the people have a superiority complex when it comes to us.
For instance.
In case of conflict with a foreigner, sense of unity among local people will prevail over the sense of right/wrong.
Which means if a local in china gets into a fist fight with a foreigner for example, other chinese people who just happen to be nearby will start attacking the foreigner as well. Whereas when it's just two chinese people in a fight over something, most locals would either stand by and watch or just carry on with their business. But in a conflict with a foreigner, the chinese bystanders will usually jump in and help the chinese peraon attack the foreigner no matter who's fault it is. |
Not necessarily.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
I can agree with you on one thing. Not every person in china thinks like this. There are those who are more educated. And therefore know better. And certainly there are those who would jump in to break up the fight without taking one side or the other. But the amount that do think like this is overwhelming.
And stories about chinese in a fight with a Foreigner where it started off as a conflict only between the two. Then many other locals out of nowhere came from all other angles and started attacking the foreigner. Even when the other locals who did jump in didn't know who's fault it was.
Here's one example of a story of a foreign mother in a chengdu WalMart with her son. Ended up in a conflict with another chinese. Here was the result.
http://www.gochengdoo.com/en/users/profile/33650/ |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| Alien1982 wrote: |
I can agree with you on one thing. Not every person in china thinks like this. There are those who are more educated. And therefore know better. And certainly there are those who would jump in to break up the fight without taking one side or the other. But the amount that do think like this is overwhelming.
And stories about chinese in a fight with a Foreigner where it started off as a conflict only between the two. Then many other locals out of nowhere came from all other angles and started attacking the foreigner. Even when the other locals who did jump in didn't know who's fault it was.
Here's one example of a story of a foreign mother in a chengdu WalMart with her son. Ended up in a conflict with another chinese. Here was the result.
http://www.gochengdoo.com/en/users/profile/33650/ |
Perhaps--I don't necessarily disagree with you.
Personally, I do my best to stay out of fistfights and disagreements with locals to avoid any unpleasantries.
I am interested in perusing more of these stories regarding these types of incidents.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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Alien1982
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:26 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| fat_chris wrote: |
| Alien1982 wrote: |
I can agree with you on one thing. Not every person in china thinks like this. There are those who are more educated. And therefore know better. And certainly there are those who would jump in to break up the fight without taking one side or the other. But the amount that do think like this is overwhelming.
And stories about chinese in a fight with a Foreigner where it started off as a conflict only between the two. Then many other locals out of nowhere came from all other angles and started attacking the foreigner. Even when the other locals who did jump in didn't know who's fault it was.
Here's one example of a story of a foreign mother in a chengdu WalMart with her son. Ended up in a conflict with another chinese. Here was the result.
http://www.gochengdoo.com/en/users/profile/33650/ |
Perhaps--I don't necessarily disagree with you.
Personally, I do my best to stay out of fistfights and disagreements with locals to avoid any unpleasantries.
I am interested in perusing more of these stories regarding these types of incidents.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
It's always best to stay out of fistfights no matter where in the world you are. In china especially, most fights between a foreigner and chinese are often at a club. I never go to bars in china.
Before I never imagined that foreigners would be subjected to that. However. After living in china for so long, and getting alot of rejection. Being patronized alot. Locals being apathetic towards me. And the way some locals would react when they saw me with a girl. 3 years of all this led to me starting to wonder if other locals would attack me ramdomly if I ever got into it with a local. I came to the conclusion that locals would respond that way. I did some research and talked with other locals as well as a couple of my trusted chinese friends and it turns out my guess was right.
And yet it took me 3 years to figure that out.
Lucky for me I never ended up in a physical confrontation with anyone. |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| Alien1982 wrote: |
| It's always best to stay out of fistfights no matter where in the world you are. In china especially, most fights between a foreigner and chinese are often at a club. I never go to bars in china. |
True that. I have since retired from the Mainland bar and club scene. Just not worth it and too many things can easily go wrong in that scene.
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| Before I never imagined that foreigners would be subjected to that. However. After living in china for so long, and getting alot of rejection. Being patronized alot. Locals being apathetic towards me. And the way some locals would react when they saw me with a girl. 3 years of all this led to me starting to wonder if other locals would attack me ramdomly if I ever got into it with a local. I came to the conclusion that locals would respond that way. I did some research and talked with other locals as well as a couple of my trusted chinese friends and it turns out my guess was right. |
I'm curious, Alien1982, where did you reside on the Mainland?
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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Alien1982
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners vs locals |
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| fat_chris wrote: |
| Alien1982 wrote: |
| It's always best to stay out of fistfights no matter where in the world you are. In china especially, most fights between a foreigner and chinese are often at a club. I never go to bars in china. |
True that. I have since retired from the Mainland bar and club scene. Just not worth it and too many things can easily go wrong in that scene.
| Alien1982 wrote: |
| Before I never imagined that foreigners would be subjected to that. However. After living in china for so long, and getting alot of rejection. Being patronized alot. Locals being apathetic towards me. And the way some locals would react when they saw me with a girl. 3 years of all this led to me starting to wonder if other locals would attack me ramdomly if I ever got into it with a local. I came to the conclusion that locals would respond that way. I did some research and talked with other locals as well as a couple of my trusted chinese fr | | | |
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