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Why do universities pay expat professors so little in China?
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Toast



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not long ago a university in Sichuan was advertising for foreign teachers....they listed the pay rates for BAs, MAs, PhDs etc. and the final / highest one was for Nobel Prize Laureates for which the salary was a whopping 120,000rmb per annum. Haha - "I found the cure for Ebola and now I can come to China and work for food stamps!"
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toast wrote:
Nobel Prize Laureates for which the salary was a whopping 120,000rmb per annum. Haha - "I found the cure for Ebola and now I can come to China and work for food stamps!"


Haha! Wishful thinking is strong here in the 'chuan.

Haha! The very idea of a Nobel Prize Laureate coming to the Four Rivers for 120,000rmb per annum. Hirarious.

Toast, how much are you sellin' that cure for Ebola for?

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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat_chris,

You don't have ebola. It was the street food you had the other night.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebola is makin' a comeback!

Good timing on that breakthrough, Toast. Time for you to come to the 'chuan and cash in that Golden Ticket with Willy Wonka Daxue here.

You are right though Bud. Sometimes the effects of the street food here make me wish I "only" had Ebola instead.

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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
toast wrote:
Nobel Prize Laureates for which the salary was a whopping 120,000rmb per annum. Haha - "I found the cure for Ebola and now I can come to China and work for food stamps!"


Most Heavy Duty professors here are on exchange programs and fellowship which are often paid better than food stamps...which don't exist in the PRC so WTF kind of reference is that.
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RWA1981



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
LPKSA wrote:
Many Chinese Uni. professors (of Chinese nationality) are expected to research, publish, research, publish, etc. etc. etc.

That's where their money comes from.


Yes, they get a grant of 5000 to write about xxx subject. They ask the FT to do it for free and when that fails they assign the subject as the senior students' thesis, cobble a few together and publish that.
Quite sophisticated. Don't think I could pull that off, but fascinating to watch.
Cool


Are they paid extra for this research and writing? Who profits from it?
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JRJohn



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Foreign Experts vs. Foreign Professors Reply with quote

When I taught in Beijing, people used to complain about the pollution. One guy at the private college complained that in the TOP universities: Peking University, Renmin University, etc. the salaries for western English teachers, not professors were among the lowest in China, and yet the management was among the most demanding. Beijing is also not cheap. The guy then said that the universities attracted visiting scholars, whose real teaching job was back home.
You are saying that even foreign professors are paid peanuts at those universities?
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NoBillyNO



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are saying that even foreign professors are paid peanuts at those universities?


These guys wont even grace an FT with a presence....and since they are paid often from their home uni or a fellowship.. they get coin.....
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Western Researching professors. Are they paid extra for this research and writing? Who profits from it?

Their own universities pay them or they are paid through an American endowment or scholarship. Does Fulbright ring a bell? That's just one such program. There are also Sino-American joint programs (none of which come to mind at the moment) which are funded by both governments.

Both parties gain insight into the problem studied.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Why do universities pay expat professors so little in Ch Reply with quote

fat_chris wrote:
RWA1981 wrote:
Yeah we get a free apartment but the value of the apartment is only 4,000 yuan per month at most. I think its crazy that professors earn less than most expat kindergarten teachers in China.


Prove it.


More than a week later…still waiting for a tasty nugget to substantiate OP's original statement.

Bueller? Bueller?

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