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scots_teacher11



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:59 pm    Post subject: Degree Attestation Reply with quote

Hi,

Has anyone had a similar experiennce to mine.

I'm applying for my employment visa and need to get my degrees attested. My Bachelor degree is not a problem but I'm finishing my Msc in TESOL now and my degree won't be awarded until November.

Do you think the SACM will accept a transcript and an official stamped and signed letter from my university?

The university where I am going to work has emailed them for clarification.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing to attest at this point. You'll have to wait until your marks come out in order for your grad degree to qualify you for the position. Perhaps by then you'll have a response from the SACM.
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't the SACM just need a degree certificate to attest?

Your employer made the Masters' degree a pre-requisite, not the SACM. I know they usually require you to have a degree of some kind to grant you a visa. All this Masters' formality should be between you and your employer.

I could be wrong, but from my understanding as long as you have a certificate to attest, you should be fine getting around the SACM.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, a physical diploma (along with a letter from the registrar and official transcripts) is required; a photocopy of the original diploma gets stamped by the SACM to indicate authenticity in addition to the name of the employer. That's the process of Americans---I assume it's the same for Brits.

Anyway, I'm surprised PSU made an offer even though the OP hasn't yet finished his/her grad degree. Perhaps they weren't aware the actual diploma won't get sent to the OP until later this year. But that's why the OP is having this issue.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Degree Attestation Reply with quote

scots_teacher11 wrote:

Do you think the SACM will accept a transcript and an official stamped and signed letter from my university?

The university where I am going to work has emailed them for clarification.


That will work just fine, that is if the SACM was normal. That is also what you're school is probably thinking. In actuality your school will have to send a letter detailing whether or not your classes were online. My university said "Why are you even getting a job with these people?" "We don't do that". It took months to get my visa.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
I assume it's the same for Brits.

can any Brit here tell me if degrees nowadays have 'transcripts'. I don't even know what they are. Do British universities issue them? I last graduated in 2002 so things might have moved on a bit since then... Wink
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh they still issue transcripts sicklyman...you can ask your university to issue one to you!

I'm sure I didn't have to submit my transcript to the SACM.
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nwtefl



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to the attestation thing, do I need to get certs authorised by a solicitor before sending them to the FCO ? Can't I just send them to the FCO straight ?
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Chiselpoint



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does SACM do the actual attesting?? For all of it?

Is there anything I must attest myself?
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The certificates/degrees need to be notarised by a solicitor before being sent to the FCO in Milton Keynes.

Yes, any UK university will issue transcripts of your degree (with modules listed and grades). It can be expensive, I think I paid about 20 pounds per transcript..

PS I graduated with my BA in 1999 and my MA in 2004.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chiselpoint wrote:
Does SACM do the actual attesting?? For all of it?

Is there anything I must attest myself?


THe SACM does the attesting. All you do is provide the degree certificates, notarized and sign any documents at school that allows them to access a list of classes indicating whether they were online or not. Don't forget transcripts. Also a print out of the online verification. At least when you're bachelors is attested and your teaching starts in Saudi Arabia, you will be addressed as Doctor. All of this is their way, just be culturally sensitive about it.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chiselpoint wrote:
Does SACM do the actual attesting?? For all of it?

Is there anything I must attest myself?

The process and requirements depend on your nationality.
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pooroldedgar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it asks for a 'copy' of the passport and degree and contract does that mean a photocopy from Xerox machine? Or the actual thing?

I know that may seem like a silly question, but I'm not sure which way it's silly. I could see the answer being either one.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, "copy" means just that --- a photocopy of your documents. Send quality color copies rather than black/white.

You might ask these questions over on your other thread so that you don't get confused as to which process to follow (i.e., the SACM in the US authenticates degrees rather than attests them).
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I moved from Jeddah to Dhahran - from one employer to another - I recollect that I spent hours getting my documents translated and apostilled and all the rest. Then at KFUPM no one asked to see them !

The Cultural Attaché/SACM was helpful, but I was dealing with their office in Ankara.
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