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No degree in Shanghai-considering Korea or Taiwan

 
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Vancouver Jim



Joined: 03 May 2004
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: No degree in Shanghai-considering Korea or Taiwan Reply with quote

Hello Experts;

i am a 50 year old Canadian male, very entrepreneur-oriented, with 10 years ESL teaching experience in several countries and 2 teaching certificates totaling 100 hours. I also have certificates in Construction-Technical areas along with years of experience including instruction.

I would like to meet a local, perhaps get married, and form a language or business consulting company. Of course first I'll need to pick up some private classes and work at a language school in the beginning. My last job was Director of Studies here in Shanghai.

I would like to hear from someone who has been in China, Korea, and Taiwan to get your perspective. Also from those who can comment on getting a work visa other than as a teacher. However any feedback on Taiwan and Korea would be appreciated.

I look forward to your comments and appreciate your taking time to do so.
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wood



Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: No degree in Shanghai-considering Korea or Taiwan Reply with quote

Vancouver Jim wrote:
Hello Experts;

i am a 50 year old Canadian male, very entrepreneur-oriented, with 10 years ESL teaching experience in several countries and 2 teaching certificates totaling 100 hours. I also have certificates in Construction-Technical areas along with years of experience including instruction.

I would like to meet a local, perhaps get married, and form a language or business consulting company. Of course first I'll need to pick up some private classes and work at a language school in the beginning. My last job was Director of Studies here in Shanghai.

I would like to hear from someone who has been in China, Korea, and Taiwan to get your perspective. Also from those who can comment on getting a work visa other than as a teacher. However any feedback on Taiwan and Korea would be appreciated.

I look forward to your comments and appreciate your taking time to do so.


Not having a degree is a problem here. Age might be another problem. However, if you're married here, you should be able to find work. Getting a work visa for anything other than teaching isn't likely. It may be impossible.

Korea is pretty much the same story.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and now China.

I knew people in all countries working without a degree.

It is possible, just be careful.
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wood



Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
I worked in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and now China.

I knew people in all countries working without a degree.

It is possible, just be careful.


Were any of those people 50-year-old Canadians?

I've worked in all those places, too. But I am not a 50-year old Canadian, yet.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wood wrote:
The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
I worked in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and now China.

I knew people in all countries working without a degree.

It is possible, just be careful.


Were any of those people 50-year-old Canadians?

I've worked in all those places, too. But I am not a 50-year old Canadian, yet.


Good point.

I think a 50-something guy without a degree would have a hard time, although I do know one guy who is 63 teaching in Korea w/o one.

His school is pretty crappy though.
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Wonder



Joined: 29 Jun 2003
Posts: 109

PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Vancouver Jim!

I am also from Vancouver, and have been teaching in Korea and Taiwan for the last few years. I am now in a smaller city called Chiayi, teching children.

I have to say I am a little baffled by your post. The headline reads "no degree..." but your message rattles off several impressive credentials, including director of studies.

What the heck would you want to come here for (with no degree), if you have such a good thing going elsewhere? And you're certainly planning ahead! You want to meet a girl, get married and start a business?

In that order?

Perhaps you should check with the Taiwan embassy in Shanghai on starting a business here. There could be a special visa you could apply for. I've heard of others getting a business visa before they come here and it seems to be no problem.

However, if in fact you wish to teach here and gain the much needed knowledge regarding the ESL industry in Taiwan, you'll have to find a school that will hire you without a degree. This is possible, but not recommended, especially if you want to use that school for a reference when setting up your business through the normal channels.

On the other hand, I may have the wrong impression from your post. Hope all goes well.
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