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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: Thanks for the Thoughts |
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I certainly like some parts of the ESL world:
- It's at most 8 hours a day for regular shifts
- Teachers are genuinely respected (everywhere except the Middle East)
- Any job you go will pay you enough to live decently there (save for those few volunteer positions)
- Some places even allow homestays (where you get to live with and get good local food cooked by the locals)
- You'll have more stories to tell than someone who sits at a desk
- You're more grateful when you come back to the West and get more stable HR, labor laws, etc.
- You're much closer to the rest of the world than living with the US
- Almost every country I've been to (even Mexico) has more efficient medical care than the US
So, coming to think of what I'm grateful for, I see this.
However, I eventually want to settle down to a more stable job with a pension, opportunities for advancement, etc.
Teaching in the Middle East is a great way to supplement income; I can't imagine many other jobs where every hour worked= ~$40 SAVED (not just earned), plus enough time for lots of sleep, exercise, leisure time, etc. That's equivalent of at least $100,000 salary back home for 2000+ hours a week. But, of course, unless I make it to Aramco, I'm not sure I could live in Saudi for more than 6 months or so at a time without going crazy. |
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Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks for the Thoughts |
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| ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
- Teachers are genuinely respected (everywhere except the Middle East)
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Add China to that list of exceptions. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks for the Thoughts |
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| ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
| - Teachers are genuinely respected (everywhere except the Middle East) |
That's a big generalization. It depends on the teaching situation. |
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BadBeagleBad

Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 1186 Location: 24.18105,-103.25185
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| djunamod wrote: |
I think Nomad Soul has a very relevant question - how do we define "loser"?
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Excellent point! I don't think we can call anyone a loser without knowing what their goals in life are. I have a friend who loves the water, swimming, surfing, lazing on the beach, that is his idea of heaven on earth. He lives in Central America currently in a small house, works 15 or 20 hours a week and spends the rest doing what he loves. To some, he would be a loser, but he is living in heaven on earth to him. I have wanted to get out of big cities for years and have been able to move to a small town in the middle of nowhere, while I do work full time, I can choose my own hours, take a random day off - or two or three - on a whim. I can work outside on my patio and often do. We eat fresh fruits and vegetables, which is a luxury in many parts of the world. It is quiet and peaceful here, and while there is not a lot of night life - only a couple of clubs, no movie theater, etc., I have plenty of time to pursue my own interests - reading, sewing, quilting, gardening. A lot of my friends in Mexico City gave me six months before I moved back, but the longer I am here the more I hate the idea of moving back there - or to even city really. What to me is peace and quiet to them is the epitome of boredom. On a side note, I am also able to save lots, the cost of living is very low, in fact, will probably be able to retire in another 5 or 6 years. One person's loser is another person's ideal life. I hesitate to use that label on anyone that I don't know well, and even then, really. |
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TwinCentre
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Mokotow
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I felt a bit of a loser doing EFL (which I did for a very long time), but that is my own personal viewpoint based on the fact that I knew I should have been doing something else, which I am now finally doing (again).
So the question to the OP is how many people like me are in EFL?
I would suspect quite a lot because of the escapist nature of travel which is central to EFL. I do believe EFL can be a respected career...but I am trying to raise what is in the eye of the beholder here...and how that is passed on to others.
There was a famous article about TEFL (in Italy) in a British newspaper a few years back which, if I remember correctly, ended with the line "everyone (in TEFL) is a failed someone else". That certainly fitted me when I was doing it...by my own omission.
Now I know some won't believe me, but despite this, I think I was still a good teacher, simply because I have a strong work ethic. |
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TeacherTim
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 89 Location: Deep undercover
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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There's no need to be bitter about teaching EFL. I started at the bottom and worked up. Getting the right qualifications and experience are keys to a successful/fruitful career regardless of whatever it might be.
I was a lecturer prior to teaching EFL and now I'm earning four times what I took home in those days.I might not have a career like back home but you should see my swimming pool.
In other words life is what you make it. If it isn't working, change it. |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| For me the short hours and high pay in the ME have allowed me to pursue my goal of writing. The result? 'Travelling teaching and tippling in Paris: the life of a tefl teacher' will be published before the summer whilst the much harder hitting 'Hookers and Hypocrites: an ex-pats view of life in the Middle East' will be later this year. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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