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[kev7161]

Well, I'll weigh in one more time on this subject. I've worked in Suzhou for nearly 9 years. I've asked my well-known and (I believe) above-board school on more than one occasion about this new retirement thing. To date, I've never gotten any response about it. No "we're exempt because . . . " or "we are going to implement it any day now", or any other sort of feedback. I earn far north of 15,000 and only basic taxes are taken out of my pay. I'm not worried about it as I save for my own retirement. I feel it's still a valid question for newcomers, I just haven't seen hide nor hair of it in my small corner of the world.

[Mikeylikesit114]

I worked in Shenzhen from August 2008 through June 2011. My employer deducted about 400-500 per month for social insurance and a health savings account. When my employment ended, I was told by my school that the law had changed and I was no longer entitled to a refund.

Last year my gf called one of her friends in Shenzhen and determined that my school was full of sh*t, and I was entitled to a refund of 27000 RMB. I flew down to SZ about a month later and claimed it.

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[kev7161]

That's a good and important distinction: refund from school or from government? Also, and sadly, a lot of people won't have a Chinese girlfriend (or any sort of C-friend at all), ready to help out in a pinch. A lot of people will leave their job and return to their home country a few days later. It would be nearly impossible to get a refund from abroad, I would think.

Also, I'm just speculating here, if one pays into the national social security, leaves their job, but moves on to another in-country job, they wouldn't necessarily be eligible to receive a refund at the time they leave the first job, yes or no? I would think the time for you to collect (if, indeed, you actually CAN collect) would be when you are packing up your tent and leaving the country for good.

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until mikeylikesit! responds, i'll assume the school was deducting the
employee contributions monthly, which then went into the school's
second party secretary's baijiu slush fund. the school likely never
made the obligatory 37% employers contribution neither. no official
payment, no personal account, no records, no refund.

"the law changed." translation: um, oops, you caught us. we never
made any payments on your behalf......soooollllly!

however, mikeylikesit! may not YET have been eligible for a refund.
i think according to the law (or the suggestion), you only can apply
when leaving our china. mikeylikesit! wrote that he "flew down" to
shenzhen. is he working up north now? regardless, seems to still
be in country.

the "law" is pretty vague here. it might say (in translation) you gets
your money upon leaving. does that mean leaving the job for
another (of course not), leaving the job but staying in our china as
a spouse (maybe), or terminating employment and leaving the
country (obviously in this case).

[Mikeylikesit114]

Sorry for not responding earlier. A substantial portion of the deductions, as well as employer contributions were loaded onto a health savings card that I could only use at hospitals in Shenzhen.

I had to go to a municipal bureau with proof that I had finished my contract with the school in order to claim my refund.

Choudoufu, I'm in Qingdao currently.

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