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thechangling
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| Go Guangdong Shroob cos the pollution in Beijing means you'll eventually get sick. That's what I'd do anyway! |
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thechangling
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| I can imagine Masters degrees will eventually start to matter more here in China. But not yet. |
Seconded.
You mentioned "da ROK" in another thread and a similar thing has also happened in Japan--maturing market--it's come a long way since the 80s when any cowboy could ride his pony up to the gates of whatever uni and rock on with some English tay-chin. No more.
I presume the PRC will go the same way...maybe, perhaps, sort of, eventually.
I too am an M.A. in TESOL holder and I curious to see what that can get me here. I am in a "right place at the right time" frame of mind. We'll see.
Warm regards,
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Shroob wrote: |
Just to give everyone an update, within a week of posting this thread, I was contacted by numerous universities, all of which I'd be happy to work for. I've narrowed it down to two.
The real trouble now is deciding!
I'm tempted by the first, just to see what it's like to work there. They both have clear advantages and disadvantages. I have less than a week to decide. Any thoughts? |
Nice one, Shroob! Good luck with it all. I say option 2 because you mention the following: "Attention to professional development - conferences, research groups etc."
That is key to get in on some of that sweet action to jump start your career. You, with soon to be minted M.A., will appreciate being able to go to conferences and present and be a member of research groups. It's exhilirating stuff and if you have the chance to get in on that, then I would say go for it. At this point it will be time for you to build on that CV with your list of presentations made at X, Y, and Z conferences as well as mentioning your research and forthcoming publications.
Just my two jiao.
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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drjtrekker
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| I too am an M.A. in TESOL holder and I curious to see what that can get me here. I am in a "right place at the right time" frame of mind. We'll see. |
me wonder too. Acct, Physics, Math, big $.
m.a. tesol? I know of one brit/china jv uni that requires it...but they never can fill the vacancies, so ????
And many of the teachers are NOT native speakers...
BUT its definitely changing on the EAST SIDE!!! |
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Didah
Joined: 25 Jul 2009
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Location: Planet Tralfamador.... and so it goes
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations Shroob. I hope this is what you want and you are well compensated with your package.
Like you and fat_chris, I also have a similar graduate degree which is an M.S. Ed. TESOL. Also like fat_chris, I was involved in a program with the state department in Iraq that was similar to the ELF program, however, at that time, ELFs were not in Iraq and I came through another consulting firm in a similar function.
Anyway, back to the topic. Besides my master's degree, I have a teaching credential in English Language Arts and ESL. I think this observation has been made before, however, what I have found is that I can get much a much higher salary and benefits in high-end bridge programs. For example, I have been quoted university salaries between 6K and 12K rmb while I have been offered work in a couple of bridge programs between 22K and 40k plus housing and airfare. The highest paying jobs also involve some level of management duties. Granted, the hours are longer and the expectations are high, however, I would rather work in a higher paying program even with the extra hours. By the way, for the bridge jobs I've looked at, the contact hours are between 18 and 24 depending on the administrative responsibilities.
After all these years of seeing the low paying jobs in China, it is ironic that these bridge programs for credentialed teachers pay more than places like the tragic kingdom.
Good luck. |
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