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sarahstar



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Qualifications/ Resources.. Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a BA in English and Modern Languages from Oxford University (2000), and 6 months teaching experience (dates back to 1998).

I am planning to take off from my job in Paris in the next 6 months to teach in Asia (need a change, love Asia, looking for a new direction - possibly teaching).

I have some experience but that was years ago and was not backed up by any formal training, I'm thinking long-term and looking at all of the possibilities if I want to teach TEFL seriously. On the other hand I still haven't paid off my student loans from 2000 and don't have a lot of money to get a formal teaching qualification.

After poring over this site I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get a job in Asia (S Korea/ China) without TESOL/ CELTA/ MA, so I've decided that I'd prefer to get some teaching experience in Asia, and see whether I actually enjoy it before embarking on any of these courses.

I have two questions for any experienced teachers out there :

1. Is this an intelligent route to take? Or should I spend some time & money getting some formal training before getting in front of a gang of kids?

2. Can anybody recommend any good TEFL resources/ a reading list if I do decide to start teaching without any formal qualifications?

Cheers,

Sarah
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan is also an option. A TEFL certificate isn't required (but it does help you teach), just a BA in anything. If you are in this for the long haul, then I would recommend getting some kind of training. You will be doing yourself and your students a service. Sorry, I don't know any cheap TEFL certs, but I was glad I got a CELTA. I was amazed at how much I learned and that was after 4 years of teaching already.
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sarahstar



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks gordon,

did you do a distance CELTA or did you go back to do it?

i think i'll try teaching for a year and do some training if i plan to stick it out..

cheers,

Sarah
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waxwing



Joined: 29 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you aware that a CELTA only takes 1 month?
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sarahstar



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's the cost that's making me wonder if it's worth it straight away..
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say you've had some teaching experience. How confident are you in your ability to plan & deliver lessons to different ages & levels of students? Even when they're not required, TEFL certificates can do wonders for your confidence.

There are schools out there that have their own training programs. If you don't mind being told what/how to teach (you'd have to follow their methods), such schools might be an option.

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Gordon



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarahstar wrote:
thanks gordon,

did you do a distance CELTA or did you go back to do it?

i think i'll try teaching for a year and do some training if i plan to stick it out..

cheers,

Sarah


I did the CELTA when I still lived in Canada.

I was not aware that CELTA is offered by distance. Really? If so, than I don't think it would be of much use since the most useful part about it is the teaching practicum component.
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sarahstar



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are right.. celta is part time or full time but not distance.. i was looking at the i to i tefl course..

i've just seen that there are two colleges in Paris which teach CELTA full time.

Has anyone ever used the "Teach Yourself Teaching English As a Foreign/Second Language" by David Riddell ?
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kait



Joined: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 93
Location: Lungtan, Taiwan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hess, in Taiwan, offers a TEFL certificate after a year of employment. They have a teacher training session when you first arrive in the country, then they provide additional training periodically throughout the year. That might be one way to actually get paid to get your certification.
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarahstar wrote:
you are right.. celta is part time or full time but not distance.. i was looking at the i to i tefl course..

i've just seen that there are two colleges in Paris which teach CELTA full time.

Has anyone ever used the "Teach Yourself Teaching English As a Foreign/Second Language" by David Riddell ?

Not heard of that one. The standard text is by a guy called Jeremy Harmer and called The Practice of English Teaching I believe. This covers all the bases if you aren't going to get the CELTA (which BTW, I really would recommend as a lot of places can leave you feeling like you've been thrown in at the deep end.)

E Asia is the kind of place where you can either land on your feet or have a living hell. A CELTA will help make the latter less of a chance by giving you something to go on. The course is a lot of fun though challenging and as you are someone who obviously understands the need to go into debt to earn qualifications Wink I'm sure you could see a justifications for a bit more leniency at the bank
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sarahstar



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wish my bank manager thought that way !!

i'll get hold of harmer's book - i was looking at that one too.

i guess i'll have to swot up before i go, perhaps get some teaching work in paris beforehand.. i've got a pretty positive outlook & living in paris has made me tough as old boots so i should be ok.

the taiwan option sounds interesting from a financial point of view.. but whilst in thailand i met an extremely stressed out canadian who was teaching english in taipei & after that i decided that taiwan isn't the place for me.. i know that this is a massive generalisation, and it's what you make of it, but i've had may fill of partying Wink & loads of noisy drinking ex-pats would do my head in.
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