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UK Masters degrees - are we home or international students?
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dackinator



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: UK Masters degrees - are we home or international students? Reply with quote

I'm thinking about saving up and doing a masters in education,I'll soon be 30 and its time to try and improve my career prospects.

I've found plenty of interesting courses that I could just about afford, BUT I notice that most UK universities charge almost double to international students. I'm British, UK passport, but i've been teaching overseas for 4 years now. Would I count as a foreign student? I'll do the course while continuing to teach abroad, so im guessing yes . Sad
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: UK Masters degrees - are we home or international studen Reply with quote

dackinator wrote:
I'm thinking about saving up and doing a masters in education,I'll soon be 30 and its time to try and improve my career prospects.

I've found plenty of interesting courses that I could just about afford, BUT I notice that most UK universities charge almost double to international students. I'm British, UK passport, but i've been teaching overseas for 4 years now. Would I count as a foreign student? I'll do the course while continuing to teach abroad, so im guessing yes . Sad


Best thing to do is contact the universities and speak to the admission team. Technically, you may be an 'overseas' student as to be classed as home you should have been living in the UK for the past 3 year, though there are exceptions...

I almost fell fowl of this myself last September. I applied, got accepted and never considered I'd be anything other than a 'home' student as I'm British born and bred. Only when it came to paying and there was a huge red box indicating what home status was did I realise. I contacted the university asking for clarification. What ensued was an agonising 2 weeks of emails back and forth to different people, phone calls late at night (time differences), and sending copies of my employment contract. It was finally decided, to my relief, to class me as a 'home' student.

What helped me, I think, was that there is a 'loophole' at my university, I am not sure if this is the case everywhere but

The student would qualify under paragraph (a) or (b) above were it not solely for the fact that he or she was, or their spouse or parent was, temporarily employed outside the United Kingdom, the European Economic Area or Switzerland, as the case may be; or

(a) -settled in the UK for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.
(b) -settled in the EU for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.

The other option is not to tell them anything and just apply as home. Though your application pack may not add up when they see 'taught for 4 years in Country X'.

It depends where you are/were teaching as well. If it's in the EU it's not a problem.
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was given home student fees for the first 3 years I was out of the country. After that they switched me to overseas fees.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you explain that ? Rephrase it so that I can understand what you are trying to say ?
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Tudor



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: UK Masters degrees - are we home or international studen Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:


What helped me, I think, was that there is a 'loophole' at my university, I am not sure if this is the case everywhere but

The student would qualify under paragraph (a) or (b) above were it not solely for the fact that he or she was, or their spouse or parent was, temporarily employed outside the United Kingdom, the European Economic Area or Switzerland, as the case may be; or

(a) -settled in the UK for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.
(b) -settled in the EU for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.



The way I'm reading this then is that the 'loophole' is that teaching contracts (outside the EU) are generally temporary ones, so this maintains one's status of being "ordinarily resident" in the UK or EU. Have I go that right Shroob?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: UK Masters degrees - are we home or international studen Reply with quote

Tudor wrote:
Shroob wrote:


What helped me, I think, was that there is a 'loophole' at my university, I am not sure if this is the case everywhere but

The student would qualify under paragraph (a) or (b) above were it not solely for the fact that he or she was, or their spouse or parent was, temporarily employed outside the United Kingdom, the European Economic Area or Switzerland, as the case may be; or

(a) -settled in the UK for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.
(b) -settled in the EU for the past 3 years and an ordinary resident.



The way I'm reading this then is that the 'loophole' is that teaching contracts (outside the EU) are generally temporary ones, so this maintains one's status of being "ordinarily resident" in the UK or EU. Have I go that right Shroob?


I'm not exactly sure, the university admission team did ask to see copies of my contract, so that could be it.
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mmcmorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option is to look at institutions which charge the same fees to domestic and international courses - for example, the online MA in TESOL from the Institute of Education at London University.

Martin McMorrow, Massey University, NZ
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmcmorrow wrote:
Another option is to look at institutions which charge