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delphian-domine
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700? In Poznan?
Again : please don't make the mistake of assuming that all TEFL types live in the pub. There are plenty of female native speakers of languages living in Poznan, but you'll never meet them. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: yep |
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You are right. I spend all my time at home with the missus or we are in Berlin or Sopot or the UK or Kolobrzeg or Warsaw or sunnier places.
And we don't go 'couchsurfing'. |
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ecocks
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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| delphian-domine wrote: |
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| there's a reason why just about every teacher from abroad in Poland is a man.. |
From your perspective.
I know at least 6-7 foreign women teaching here personally. There's a lot more than you think, they just don't go for the pub lifestyle. |
I'm not that plugged in to the school group circuit but there are several up in this area as well. Again, nothing exceptional about Poland in this regard. They're thinner on the ground in Ukraine as well. Azerbaijan was about 40/60 at my employer although I noticed half were married to expat oil industry workers. Japan, Korea and China appear to have higher percentages of women in TEFL but that's just my impression. |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 8:45 am Post subject: Re: yep |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| You are right. I spend all my time at home with the missus or we are in Berlin or Sopot or the UK or Kolobrzeg or Warsaw or sunnier places. |
Which explains why you think that Poland is full of "struggling people that can't make it", because you actually don't have any contact with real people. It seems that your opinion of Poland is actually based on 10 years ago.
Kolobrzeg (and in fact, most of the seaside) is utter rubbish. I recommend Warnemunde instead, it's far more civilised. Warsaw? Yawn. Try Gorlitz if you want a city with atmosphere and charm.
Bit of a boring life you must lead though, if you don't actually go out when you're here. No wonder you don't actually meet any of these female native speakers.
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| And we don't go 'couchsurfing'. |
But you do fly with Wizzair, rent cheap cars and stay in cheap hotels. Can't fool us  |
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dynow
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I knew of one woman in Wroclaw that came from "elsewhere" to do TEFL in Poland....and she was Polish. Grew up in Canada, Polish speaking parents, spoke Polish before her boots ever even hit the ground in RP. She lasted a year, just did the September to June gig and skeedaddled. Other than that, the only other female native that I heard of working in Wroclaw was at one of my schools before I arrived in 2007, she was an American and was there in 2005 and lasted a couple months. The DOS told me she just didn't show up to work one day and they later found out she caught a flight back home.
I saw about 5 or 6 men come and go at the schools I worked for, not once had a woman native speaker. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: erm |
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It's pretty much the way it is Dynow.
And Delph, you're getting old. Wizz Air flies out of Poznan. Duh! Quickest way to visit relatives back home. Duh! Car rental? Bog standard mid range cars from Avis/Hertz. Do you really have a problem with that? Common sense to me. Kolobrzeg? Have you actually stayed in the Marine Hotel? Didn't think so, so your comments, true to fashion, are obtuse. Poznan? I've lived there (Piatkowo, Jezyce, Grunwald, Stary Miasto, Nowy Miasto and currently Swarzedz) since you were AT SCHOOL. I think I'm pretty 'in tune' with the place. What a retard. |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| And Delph, you're getting old. Wizz Air flies out of Poznan. Duh! Quickest way to visit relatives back home. |
Still low-cost and downmarket. The pink really is quite tasteless, and the ridiculousness of being charged for "large cabin baggage" is quite irritating
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| Duh! Car rental? Bog standard mid range cars from Avis/Hertz. Do you really have a problem with that? Common sense to me. |
I'm sure you got a mid-range car for the price you quoted.
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| Kolobrzeg? Have you actually stayed in the Marine Hotel? |
It's Kolobrzeg. Cheese sandwich osrodek central.
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| I think I'm pretty 'in tune' with the place. |
Not really. You spend a small amount of time here really, and your social circle is rather limited. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:10 pm Post subject: erm |
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You know sweet fa about my social circle too.
I have an awful lot of Polish friends. I socialize mostly with them afterall I've known them SINCE YOU WERE AT SCHOOL.
Most of my expat friends are NOT teachers but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Why don't you two arrange to meet and then you kick the dayights out of each other. And stop cluttering up this forum with your squabbling. |
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ecocks
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Why don't you two arrange to meet and then you kick the dayights out of each other. And stop cluttering up this forum with your squabbling. |
One of the biggest negatives about practicing TEFL in Poland. |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| You know sweet fa about my social circle too. |
By your own admission, you spend your time either at home or in other cities. Doesn't leave much time for a wide and varied social circle, does it?
Do stop changing the story every single time an inconsistency is pointed out.
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| I have an awful lot of Polish friends. I socialize mostly with them afterall I've known them SINCE YOU WERE AT SCHOOL |
Been here since I was in school and still don't have any status within society here? No wonder you're so bitter about Poland if that's the case.
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| Most of my expat friends are NOT teachers but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me. |
So by your own admission, you don't go out very much, you mostly socialise with Polish people, and the expat friends you socialise with aren't teachers. Yet you post on here like some sort of expert on TEFL life in Poland, when in reality, you haven't worked here for 10 years and don't even have many friends that are teachers?
What exactly makes you qualified to comment on Poland 2014, then? |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: erm |
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| OCD? |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:41 am Post subject: |
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What does that have to do with the subject?
You're the one that appears to actually have precious little knowledge of the TEFL industry in Poland, not me. Everything that you say makes perfect sense if it was 2004. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:00 am Post subject: erm |
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It's 2014 in Poznan, where I'm sitting right now. Lovely day it is too. I think you are in the business of recruiting or trying to and I think you are a purveyor of 'terminological inexactitudes' because of your 'agenda'. I'm surprised you haven't used the 'great local salary' cliché in any of your posts or described Poznan as the 'Venice' of Wielkapolska.
Just a look at the expat teaching website/ (nativespeaker), which you're probably on will show you how much competition there is and what most people actually charge an hour. The going rate seems to be 50-60/hour. That's an awful lot of hours and an awful lot of arsing about. However, you're obviously very 'special' in a Little Britain kind of way.
Got any more comments on places you've never been to today? |
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delphian-domine
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:23 am Post subject: Re: erm |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| It's 2014 in Poznan, where I'm sitting right now. Lovely day it is too. I think you are in the business of recruiting or trying to and I think you are a purveyor of 'terminological inexactitudes' because of your 'agenda'. |
Nope. Already finalised the arrangements for next year, and I've got a spare candidate just in case something happens.
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| I'm surprised you haven't used the 'great local salary' cliché in any of your posts or described Poznan as the 'Venice' of Wielkapolska. |
I don't need to, the money offered and the conditions usually speak for themselves.
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| Just a look at the expat teaching website/ (nativespeaker), which you're probably on will show you how much competition there is and what most people actually charge an hour. The going rate seems to be 50-60/hour. That's an awful lot of hours and an awful lot of arsing about. However, you're obviously very 'special' in a Little Britain kind of way. |
Most people on there haven't got a clue about teaching. Look at their educational backgrounds - most of them are shockingly poor by local standards. Not many MA's or DELTA qualified teachers on there!
There's a reason why they're looking for work on there.
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| Got any more comments on places you've never been to today? |
Wasn't me that claimed to spend 500zl on a night in Fenix, or boasted about renting cheap cars and flying cheap airlines. When you eat in cheap restaurants, rent cheap cars and fly on cheap airlines, forgive us for thinking that the places you visit are probably done on the cheap too.
Incidentally, why do you never tell people that you were fired from several places in Poznan when you talk about how you can't make it work here? I |
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