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Would you get married to get new citizenship?
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revilo



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Would you get married to get new citizenship? Reply with quote

The question may seem absurd at first, but think about it long and hard. In Europe & N. America, there is cut-throat competition to get part-time jobs (AKA the scraps).

In the rest of the world, there are full-time teaching jobs (many w/ furnished apts.). If you were married, you could learn the language, save money to buy a rental property, and use the rent money to supplement the teaching salary. Do you get my point Question
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know quite a few people who've gotten new citizenship by marriage (including myself) but it wasn't the reason for the marriage!
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I briefly considered it many years ago (when to get a teaching job in a particular country you needed to be a "civil servant", but you needed citizenship to become a "civil servant"...) Then life got in the way, then the politics of that country changed, and it all became irrelevant.

You know, life throws up so many possibilities and there are so many crossroads, that getting ensnared in something legally binding such as marriage (with all the potential difficulties when it comes to extricating yourself) is perhaps a bit extreme.

I'm happy living and working in Europe, but I'm not convinced that it's worth all the hassle of getting married, if that's your only option. Why not go and work somewhere else more lucrative then come and visit for 90 days?
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Hod



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I know quite a few people who've gotten new citizenship by marriage (including myself) but it wasn't the reason for the marriage!


Do you mean your own marriage?

A marriage of convenience can't be the best use of two people's lives for a year or so.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worked for us for 15 years so far:-)
But as I said, citizenship wasn't the reason we got married.
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jtea



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't get married just to get citizenship. To me, it's just not worth it. Maybe its because I'm not really big on getting married. If I find someone I like and it works outs, sure why not...but if it's just to get citizenship, nah. I'll figure out some other way.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtea wrote:
I wouldn't get married just to get citizenship. To me, it's just not worth it.

You might rethink that decision because according to the OP, the alternative is being doomed to a life of fighting for part-time jobs in your home country. Rolling Eyes
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suphanburi



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
jtea wrote:
I wouldn't get married just to get citizenship. To me, it's just not worth it.

You might rethink that decision because according to the OP, the alternative is being doomed to a life of fighting for part-time jobs in your home country. Rolling Eyes


The bigger problem and reason people are "fighting for part time jobs" is that they aren't qualified for the jobs that do exist and have demand.

Being "qualified to a high level" on paper in a dying field is to be underemployed for the rest of your life.

The thing I see so often is people (especially younger Americans) looking at adding academic qualifications and hoping it will lead to something better rather than finding the "something better that they would like to do" and getting the necessary qualifications to get themselves there.

Now youngsters are considering becoming "green card hunters" seeking marriages of convenience in order to seek work abroad? Have the tables turned so far?

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jtea



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
jtea wrote:
I wouldn't get married just to get citizenship. To me, it's just not worth it.

You might rethink that decision because according to the OP, the alternative is being doomed to a life of fighting for part-time jobs in your home country. Rolling Eyes


I'd sooner just go home at that point o_O
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a point but marriage does not necessarily qualify one for citizenship.
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JN



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just thought I'd mention that I know a school teacher who is not married, but in Europe and who has rental property. So marriage isn't the only way to survive well in Europe.
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eihpos



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm, I wouldn't marry just for citizenship, but it would be a nice bonus! I think Shroob is right - it doesn't necessarily qualify one for citizenship (not sure about the details of this, but I saw a movie about it)

I know at least two couples who have married more hastily than they would have if visas hadn't been an issue. In other words, they wouldn't be married now if they didn't feel at the time they had to in order to secure their right to stay in the partner's country. I might do this, if I felt we would probably get married at some point anyway.
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suphanburi



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marriage usually does NOT guarantee citizenship but it often comes with residence allowing most of the same privileges (other than voting).

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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marriage to a UK citizen has not been a route to citizenship since the last changes in UK Nationality Law. Marriage to a UK citizen does not even guarantee that you can enter the UK !
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Marriage to a UK citizen has not been a route to citizenship since the last changes in UK Nationality Law. Marriage to a UK citizen does not even guarantee that you can enter the UK !


True, you need to have provable disposable income of just under 19,000 GBP p.a. Not everybody can do this and thousands of legitimately married couples are suffering as a result.
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