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rollingk
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Pizza Hut will tell you their brand meets a standard around the world, and so will Appleby's. The quality of the food at these places in KSA does not compare with places elsewhere, and these local restaurants are filthy. I'm sure an accommodation will be made for KAU based on a local market analysis.
Maybe it's apples and oranges, but I don't think so. |
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johnslat
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Dear rollingk,
This would seem to indicate that you've got a good point:
"Yes, CEA accredits postsecondary English language programs and schools outside the United States. The policies and procedures are exactly the same as for locations within the United States, and the same CEA Standards for English Language Programs and Institutions also apply. [b]However, review teams and the Commission always take into consideration the local environment in which the program or institution is located."[/b] |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| rollingk wrote: |
I'm sure an accommodation will be made for KAU based on a local market analysis.
Maybe it's apples and oranges, but I don't think so. |
Yes, there's a distinction, which johnslat pointed out---no argument there because there has to be some accommodation or flexibility. However, if a foreign university is seeking CEA accreditation review, they're expected to adhere to the agency's standards (relevant to international institutions) as closely as possible.
What's unclear is what you meant by " . . . Those pesky standards again!" in terms of hiring teachers with certain qualifications. |
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scot47
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| Teach English with a degree in Agriculture ? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| Teach English with a degree in Agriculture ? |
Ditto that. It's better suited for working with an NGO like USAID. |
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johnslat
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myohmy
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| Teach English with a degree in Agriculture ? |
Ditto that. It's better suited for working with an NGO like USAID. |
I don't think USAID (United States Agency for Internaltional Development) is an NGO (Non-governmental Organization)! |
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Rostom
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| myohmy wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| scot47 wrote: |
| Teach English with a degree in Agriculture ? |
Ditto that. It's better suited for working with an NGO like USAID. |
I don't think USAID (United States Agency for Internaltional Development) is an NGO (Non-governmental Organization)! |
It seems according to an article:
USAID has long earned a reputation of an organization whose offices are, in fact, intelligence centers scheming to undermine legitimate governments in a number of the continent’s countries. The truth that USAID hosts CIA and US Defense Intelligence Agency operatives is not deeply hidden, as those seem to have played a role in every Latin American coup, providing financial, technical, and ideological support to respective oppositions.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/usaid-spying-in-latin-america/5306679
It seems James Bond is back! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| myohmy wrote: |
| I don't think USAID (United States Agency for Internaltional Development) is an NGO (Non-governmental Organization)! |
Correction: They partner with NGOs. |
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scot47
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USAID is part of the US Government Machine. I will refrain from using derogatory, inflammatory and hysterical language.
Back to OP -
A while back the main problem for those teaching at KAU ELI was finding accommodation. If that problem has been overcome then it should be okay. I found Jeddah a pleasant city, if a bit smelly. 3 million people without a central sewer system !
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oilers
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"Housing Allowance: 17,000 SAR annually "
Can one actually rent for that little in the KSA? In the uae, that's maybe about 10 % of what might be considered average yearly rent ... |
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oilers
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| scot47 wrote: |
| I found Jeddah a pleasant city, if a bit smelly. 3 million people without a central sewer system ! |
Hence the need for a 1 km tall building! |
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jumpingmonkey
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"Housing Allowance: 17,000 SAR annually "
Can one actually rent for that little in the KSA? In the uae, that's maybe about 10 % of what might be considered average yearly rent ... |
Average Yearly Rent in UAE is 170,000 SAR at year! Yikes! How can people afford it? |
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jumpingmonkey
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| oilers wrote: |
"Housing Allowance: 17,000 SAR annually "
Can one actually rent for that little in the KSA? In the uae, that's maybe about 10 % of what might be considered average yearly rent ... |
Average Yearly Rent in UAE is 170,000 SAR at year! Yikes! How can people afford it? |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| jumpingmonkey wrote: |
| oilers wrote: |
"Housing Allowance: 17,000 SAR annually "
Can one actually rent for that little in the KSA? In the uae, that's maybe about 10 % of what might be considered average yearly rent ... |
Average Yearly Rent in UAE is 170,000 SAR at year! Yikes! How can people afford it? |
Your average TEFLer isn't paying anywhere near this "average." UAE employers either provide housing or rent allowances that allow their teachers to pay the market rent for acceptable housing.
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