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drjtrekker · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 251

I have been told this by a school that wanted to hire me.
True?
not enough guanxi?
or...?

thanks CD ren.

jd

mambawamba · Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 311

Yep from the info we've been given it's true.

Qingdao and Chengdu are the two places which seem to be rolling this one out but seems to be sporadic about how it's being implemented. Some say it's 5 years in one city, or 5 in one job, or 5 in total over x amount of years. Some people have moved from one school to another in the same city, some are going to other cities in China some are leaving.

Not a case of guanxi a lot of places here in Qingdao have been whacked.

A hell of a lot of good people will be going this year.

You know who you are so I won't name names. You and your Killer Bunny instincts will be missed but at least I won't have to clean the floor after dinner.

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

Just finishing my 6th year in Chengdu. I guess we will see how the process works out when they renew my RP. Something new that has happened starting last year was I needed to give them a copy of my marriage booklet.

mambawamba · Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 311

@ Wangdaning, good luck man.

Markness · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 738 Location: Chengdu

This is a bit of a floater in the Chinese bureaucracy of a toilet. What the hell is that about? 5 year limit? They have a hard enough time getting native teachers here in the du' that they take the eastern/southern Europeans to teach. There are ways around this though, I.E. getting an F visa and setting up shop with a Chinaman and creating a school. Lots of satellite cities around the du' where you can probably loop-hole around this problem.

Anyways, still sounds dumb to me.

mambawamba · Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 311

@ Markness agreed. They may think twice when the realisation when the expected replacements don't come flooding in. Lot of good jobs going in Qingdao at the mo.

Zimmer · Joined: 26 Oct 2011 Posts: 229

mambawamba · Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 311

@ Zimmer it's not less than 5 years experience. It's 5 consecutive years -depending how it's being implemented- in the same job in China or since first entry into China. We've been here on and off sine 2001 but never 5 years in one stint.

The main problem is finding teachers with more than 2 years experience, a clean CBC check and who have been here less than 5 consecutive years.

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

This is where I got burned. I applied to several schools that automatically turned me down for having more than 5 years experience in China. Schools may have to start lying about teachers having LESS experience than they do Shocked

mw182006 · Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 310

Yep...my colleague just made a HK run to try to get around this. Would that even work? Not sure when I'll have an update but I'll try to post back if/when I hear something.

thebroformerlyknownaschou · Joined: 09 May 2014 Posts: 96

mambawamba · Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 311

It's being done by the date of FEC's.

We nearly got hit by the rule too. Take one overzealous HR guy who couldn't understand the FEC website plus Qingdao's stance of toeing the line, add a lot of crosstalk and confusion and whammo.

Just had an extremely stressful three weeks where we were told that as the rule was backdated to 2009 (and we had been here the academic year 2009-2010 then out for two years and back in for the present two) that we may have to leave in six weeks. Not a problem if you're young, free and single but we're here as a family and away for the whole of June so would actually have had about a week and a half to wagon's roll.

The upshot was that the FEC bureau here told him to apply early for a new FEC for my husband then if he was granted that we were fine to stay.

We got it and it's all cool so looks like we're good to go for another three years.