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Qualifications to have before applying to institutes in SA

 
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rudder



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:20 am    Post subject: Qualifications to have before applying to institutes in SA Reply with quote

I'd like to head to Saudi Arabia, but I know right now that I don't have the qualifications to land a good job there.

By good job I mean one that gives you all the benefits (airfare, health insurance, clothing, transportation, housing, vacation, etc.) plus around $2,000 USD per month.

Relevant Qualifications:
-Native Speaker
-I've become fluent in two foreign languages (none of which are from the region).
-Lived abroad multiple times.
-100 hour TESOL certificate
-Bachelors of Arts (not in education)

So, would it be better for me to get an MA in TESOL or go for the CELTA + DELTA?

On top of that how much work experience should I gather? I've recently been hired at an institute in Peru.

Is it true that the work experience should come after the Masters degree?

And lastly, Is the ME really the best place for saving the most money as an ESL teacher?
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: Qualifications to have before applying to institutes in Reply with quote

rudder wrote:
(airfare, health insurance, clothing, transportation, housing, vacation, etc.) plus around $2,000 USD per month.


If that's your goal, I think you're ready to apply with what you have.....except you'll probably be bringing/buying your own clothing and at that rate of pay, most likely having some un-paid vaca. time.
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: Qualifications to have before applying to institutes in Reply with quote

rudder wrote:
And lastly, Is the ME really the best place for saving the most money as an ESL teacher?


It's debatable, but Qatar, Saudi, and Kuwait are probably the forerunners since there are less things to do - hence more time spent at home - ergo less things to go out and spend your money on.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Qualifications to have before applying to institutes in Reply with quote

cnthaiksarok wrote:
rudder wrote:
And lastly, Is the ME really the best place for saving the most money as an ESL teacher?


It's debatable, but Qatar, Saudi, and Kuwait are probably the forerunners since there are less things to do - hence more time spent at home - ergo less things to go out and spend your money on.


Tis true...I am able to save 30,000 CAD a year and have plenty left over to live well enough. I am certainly not earning top dollar either. I could probably save more if I was part of the 500 club, but that's a bit extreme for me. I live on 1500 CAD a month. Amount of savings depends on one's salary, cost of living and life style. Create a plan and stick with it over the long term.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might rethink your list of what your consider "relevant" qualifications for when you eventually apply for positions in the Gulf. Except for being a native speaker, your other qualifications are simply that: qualifications but definitely not relevant ones for this region. You didn't include your teaching experience, so I assume you have none, which equates to being unlucky enough to possibly get a teaching job with the sketchiest Saudi contracting companies (several seem to be vying for that honor). So even though Cnthaiksarok says you currently have enough quals to get a position in KSA, it's not advisable.

A CELTA (not a 100-hour cert) + an unrelated BA + a few years of experience will likely be enough for a teaching position via a Saudi contracting company. Obviously, a related MA + a few years of (post-degree) teaching experience will make you quite marketable for direct-hire opportunities in the Kingdom and in other parts of the Gulf as well. However, experience from language schools (conversation English) and teaching children won't excite any of the better employers, so aim for university-level teaching experience before heading to this region. If you're male, there are military and oil industry teaching opportunities as well once you boost your qualifications.
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
which equates to being unlucky enough to possibly get a teaching job with the sketchiest Saudi contracting companies


Very polite of you for taking the time to type out my full user name Nomad Soul. Smile

uhmm, since the OP is indicating his/her want of a job in kingdom that "pays about 2,000 USD/mo." it would seem that he/she has already has the sights set on one of "those" contracting companies by de facto, no?
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cultofpersonality



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just apply to a contracting company...some of them are not so picky about experience. I knew a lot of people who didn't have experience when they started. Ty and steer clear of the institutes. They will work you and you will most likely do split shifts. I went through that life and I wouldn't wish it on anyone! The only contractor I'd recommend at this time is Al Khaleej though Skyline. I worked for them and compared to what I hear about other companies on here, Al Khaleej is a godsend.
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cultofpersonality wrote:
I worked for them and compared to what I hear about other companies on here, Al Khaleej is a godsend.


Sounds like good first-hand info. for pure newbies. Smile
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rudder



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=31535

Here's one that doesn't require an impressive list of qualifications. No CELTA or Masters necessary. Just one year of experience.
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psychedelicacy



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pulse.
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