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trapezius



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
I suspect that this might be quite a different tuition than most TEFLers do. What tends to happen in many schools is that the teachers don't really cover the curriculum in the classroom. The reason being that the classes are huge and out of control, added to the fact that the teacher pay is abysmally low.

Thus, teachers hold private classes of their own to limit things to those who actually want to learn and/or do test prep... and earn extra money. But it naturally reflects very bad on the teacher who is usually charging his/her own students to basically cover what should have been covered in class time.

All of the TEFLers I taught with who did private lessons never worked with their own students. In the UAE and Oman over the years, only a small minority of teachers did it. I limited mine to students where the Ministry came to me and asked me to do it for some of their employees with specific needs.

VS


Exactly. Worth reading the comments on the Arab News page. While most condemn the police action, a few say what you said. Here is an example:

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TRUE INDIAN • 7 hours ago

The need of tuition arises when the teaching in school is not proper and the time required to finish the syllabus is not enough. But most of the time the Teachers are found taking advantage of poor students and use them as a for earning extra cash.
If a good teacher can taught the same syllabus in 3 days with 2 hrs class, it means 6 hours a week, then per day he can do the same in the school. But they will not do instead they will ask you to follow them to their house, you will be spending extra time by forgoing you precious time to spend on other activities. Most of this teachers shows touch attitude during the class and they will force you not to ask any question with their behavior so that you will automatically join their tutitons. Even management get their piece of cake from the revenue. So my dear students I ask you to boyocott this practice and force the teachers to do their job with full honesty.


I have seen how members of the South Asian community do these "tuitions". They teach the whole syllabus, and advertise it as such, for example "Grade 5 science", or "Grade 12 math and physics", etc. They have a separate dedicated room for doing this in their apartments, and I even heard of teachers renting whole apartments which they would use just for the lessons as I was growing up here. Some of them were also famous for doing this all day, from like 4 pm till midnight, after school on workdays. They cover the whole syllabus from A to Z, and teach large groups, which can range anywhere from 5 to 20+ students at a time, depending on subject and level, plus they have several groups running concurrently on different days at different times. Unlike us, they charge a fixed rate, either per month, or per course/syllabus from each student, usually on the order of SR. 200-500 per month. You can see that it adds up. It is a whole business, and they are able to easily double, even triple+ their meager salaries, which by the way, range from SR. 3k to 6k per month. Needless to say, it would be too much to assume that they refuse to teach students privately who are also their students in school.

This is very different from how teachers from the Western schools, TEFLers, and university professors do it.
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to make a living....somehow!

Ironic and sad that the South Asian teachers are at times more qualified than her/his Western counterpart, but have to work harder just because of.....
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how the system works in the public schools of Egypt too. Students that want any chance of passing the exams must take the private lessons from their classroom teachers.

I'm not sure how extensive this is in the public schools of the Gulf.

VS
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow up...

Tutors learn the law the hard way
By Rashid Hassan, Arab News | 13 June 2014
Source: http://www.arabnews.com/news/585951

RIYADH--Four expatriates, three of them teachers, were briefly detained on Monday evening for giving private tuition at the Hai Al-Wazarat area in the Saudi capital. They were later released with a warning to refrain from doing so in the future.

Expatriate teachers Mehboob Pasha and Mohammad Rifai from the south Indian states of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu respectively, Tauheed Ahmad Siddiquee from the north Indian state of Uttar Pradesh and Leo, a bank employee in Riyadh were picked up while they were teaching students at home illegally.

Speaking to Arab News on Wednesday, the three International Indian School Riyadh (IISR) teachers said they had no idea that home tuition is illegal in the Kingdom. "But now we will discontinue them,” one of them said. They added that the IISR administration had also asked them not to give private tuition. They were thankful to the school public relations officer who bailed them out of police custody. “We were released by the police after a couple of hours and reached our homes by 10:30 p.m. the same evening,” one teacher said.

(End of article)
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SirAristede



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was rather generous of the Magic Kingdom. Typically, South Asian expatriates would have just been deported for violating the law. I'm sure the teachers knew that private tuition wasn't legal despite their professed "ignorance" of the laws. Maybe someone worked some wasta for them...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirAristede wrote:
Maybe someone worked some wasta for them...

They prayed to the God of Wasta. Wink
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