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Elegantstatue
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 70 Location: The Multiverse
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:28 am Post subject: Peizheng College Guangzhou |
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Some people have nothing better to do than criticize a simple and sincere posting. That was my intention for both enquiries posted yesterday. Again, this is a sincere enquiry, not spam, about Peizheng College Guangzhou. I need the skinny on them. Again-Looks like I have to repeat myself for the immature without ad hominem references-if you have nothing to add, b a c k o f f, understood? I am a teacher looking for a job. I have applied for multiple jobs. Back off!
Politely I will ask, constructive replies will be much appreciated.
Cold regards
Medium Build_Alistair Crowley |
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doogsville
Joined: 17 Nov 2011 Posts: 924 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| Here's a constructive reply. Try acting like a grown up and just ignore the posts you don't like. Posting your bad attitude and demanding that people either obey your rules or b a c k o f f just comes across as childish and immature. Why would anyone want to help out someone who's posts are rude and aggressive? Multiple posting because you don't like the replies you get to earlier posts is a waste of board space, and comes across as equally childish and immature. Good luck with finding information. Personally, given the tone of you previous posts, if I did work for that particular school I would give you the worst horror stories I could think of in order to avoid you becoming a colleague of mine. |
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Mandrews1985
Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 69 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
If anyone did have the skinny on Peizheng College, I think your abrasive and confrontational attitude would put them off recommending it to you.
You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Impartial_Mandrews1985
EDIT: yeah... what doogsville said |
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Elegantstatue
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 70 Location: The Multiverse
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:07 am Post subject: none |
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I will justify why I wrote with the tone I have. Yesterday I posted politely requesting information about CITA and it was labelled as spam. I have no idea why it was labelled as spam. Then I had a couple of immature replies that peeved me completely.
The nature of the situation is that I have applied for many jobs and I am trying to separate the chaff from the weeds. Instead I get extremely annoying replies accusing me of being this or that. I actually stated I am [i]sincerely[/i] looking for a job and that I am a real teacher. I had to justify that because someone accused me of being a spammer. For F*cks sake, of course I am going to get pissed. Now I have respondents claiming I am abrasive and blunt. It takes more to know me than labelling me as blunt. I have a very good sense of humour. Okay thanks for the replies, we all get hurt by tougher people. I'm from New York, get the picture? |
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Mandrews1985
Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 69 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| Elegantstatue wrote: |
I will justify why I wrote with the tone I have. Yesterday I posted politely requesting information about CITA and it was labelled as spam. I have no idea why it was labelled as spam. Then I had a couple of immature replies that peeved me completely.
The nature of the situation is that I have applied for many jobs and I am trying to separate the chaff from the weeds. Instead I get extremely annoying replies accusing me of being this or that. I actually stated I am sincerely looking for a job and that I am a real teacher. I had to justify that because someone accused me of being a spammer. For F*cks sake, of course I am going to get pissed. Now I have respondents claiming I am abrasive and blunt. It takes more to know me than labelling me as blunt. I have a very good sense of humour. Okay thanks for the replies, we all get hurt by tougher people. I'm from New York, get the picture? |
Justification for.... Where you are from... Previous posts....
Those have nothing to do with this current thread. If you had responded in a normal manner, you'd probably have some valuable information regarding the school. But anyone that had worked for the school previously, or currently, will just see a guy with a chip on his shoulder and not bother responding. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| and I am trying to separate the chaff from the weeds. |
Just as an aside, it's ". . . separate the wheat from the chaff . . . ". The chaff is worthless, the wheat is what is wanted. In your idiom, I would think both chaff and weeds are worthless. Just a little pointer for an upcoming English teacher. |
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Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Wow, this thread changed overnight.
For those that missed it the original post was along the lines of the usual 'China Foreign Teacher Union' or something like that. You know, the usual message about recruiters, how nobody helps..but wait! There's light at the end of the tunnel! I'll let you make your own conclusions.
NOW...If anyone sincerely is interested in Peizhang college, I actually interviewed with them but declined the position for a number of reasons, please feel free to PM me or leave a reply. I can't tell you much as I've never been there, but I'll pass on what I know. |
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Zhejiang_Man
Joined: 23 Aug 2012 Posts: 123 Location: Zhejiang
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Just as an aside, it's ". . . separate the wheat from the chaff . . . ". The chaff is worthless, the wheat is what is wanted. |
Good explanation, Kev.
Now, how about explaining the rationale of the (US) expression; "I could care less!"
I understand the (original) British version; "I couldn't care less!", meaning one cares so little about the subject, it is not possible to care to a smaller degree.
However, if one could care less, then one currently cares about the subject to significant degree, yes? |
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Shroob
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Just as an aside, it's ". . . separate the wheat from the chaff . . . ". The chaff is worthless, the wheat is what is wanted. |
Good explanation, Kev.
Now, how about explaining the rationale of the (US) expression; "I could care less!"
I understand the (original) British version; "I couldn't care less!", meaning one cares so little about the subject, it is not possible to care to a smaller degree.
However, if one could care less, then one currently cares about the subject to significant degree, yes? |
This is a great answer to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw |
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toteach
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 273
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I was there for a couple of years 10 years ago. My information of the administration and co-workers would certainly not be current, so I'll not mention much. But while I was there, paychecks were on time though "fines" were liberally administered if a foreign teacher let their class out early, missed class, was tardy for class, etc. Pay at that time (many, many years ago) began at 8,000 for 20 hours and one two-hour English Corner / office hours. Teaching was by the book of "New Interchange." Freshmen started a few weeks later, so typically new hires taught the Freshmen if they started in September.
The location of the school is at the end of a bus line. There are always 100s of students vying for a seat during peak times, so it's not uncommon to stand the entire way into Guangzhou--about an hour.
There were numerous small shops and cafes outside the school gates with relatively decent foods at university student prices.
The housing varied greatly. Some apartments were on the opposite side of the road to the school, and the road noise is atrocious. But the apartments are spacious. Others apartments are in a high rise in the middle of campus. Still others are in large western-style homes in a nice garden. Rumor has it that all teachers are now in the Garden Compound or the "new" apartments beside it.
The school had an apartment in Hong Kong which teachers could use. It had two bedrooms with four beds in one room and two in the other. If you don't mind the hostel atmosphere, it was a nice location in Chun Wan (I believe).
The school's location would not suit any teacher big on nightlife, as GZ is just too far away to be convenient. Likely still 150 RMB by taxi. Chini is a village on one side of the school with an open market was on the bus route, but the village on the other side--Chiling, if memory serves--(which did have a KFC) was reachable only by bike, foot, or taxi. Huadu is about 20 minutes away via bus and had all of the necessities--including a hotel with an expensive buffet (with BACON!).
The air was relatively clean, though when the wind blew just so we could certainly feel our lungs burning from the fumes of the nearby cosmetic factory...
The school has a seasonal swimming pool outside, free for use by teachers.
Hope this helps! |
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Zang_Lajiao
Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Knew a guy who previously worked there, claimed that he quit after just one semester. It was apparently full of spoilt rich kids with a bad attitude, that had previously failed the Gaokao. So, it seems that it is not a proper university in a sense.
He not only said that it was out in the middle of nowhere but things kind of went like this:
Teachers would give the students exams.
The students would fail the exams, then complain, get the foreign teachers into trouble with the admin.
The students just pay a bit more money, sit an exam given by a local teacher and miraculously pass.
Just do a quick google search, the place hasn't got a great reputation. |
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toteach
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, the college IS full of spoiled, rich kids. But what "private" university is not? |
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drjtrekker
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 251
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:08 am Post subject: |
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IF it's a job with failed gaokao students....the answer is very very simple.
RUN AWAY! |
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Mr. Leafy

Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 246 Location: North of the Wall
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| kev7161 wrote: |
| Just as an aside, it's ". . . separate the wheat from the chaff . . . ". The chaff is worthless, the wheat is what is wanted. In your idiom, I would think both chaff and weeds are worthless. Just a little pointer for an upcoming English teacher. |
I was also going to point out this error but then considering the professionalism of most employers in China, maybe OP was more apt than he realised. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Ha! Maybe! |
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