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Zang_Lajiao
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| drjtrekker wrote: |
IF it's a job with failed gaokao students....the answer is very very simple.
RUN AWAY! |
Although I'm at a more traditional kind of uni, I got a class full of those students during the winter semester. Kind of felt sorry for them, there were one or two decent kids that were just throwing their lives away by not trying at all, but there were kids that already failed, continuously being forced by their parents to still attend school, despite it not working out for them. Then there's the undiagnosed learning disabilities to deal with.
However, the university does not award degrees to the students and they don't really care if you teach them in a rather lazy manner. The bosses even told me as such; they'd previously taught the same classes before.
A whole university of them though... No way, I don't have qualifications in teaching special needs kids and believe me, some of them do need some special attention if this 'Continuing Adult Education' is ever going to be worthwhile. Hence Peizheng College sounds like a nightmare of a school to teach at. |
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Elegantstatue
Joined: 24 Dec 2013
Posts: 70
Location: The Multiverse
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: @mandrews1985 |
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Well at least I separated the chaff from the weeds. Europeans and Asians know some weeds contain medicinal properties. I don't know the Latin classifications for them, but I have eaten weeds.
As for my abrasive or confrontational attitude that is for you to interpret or misinterpret, but at least I discovered you are chaff, and not a weed. And if your mind serves you correctly, I did e-mail you but you never replied. You have a guile nature at best, and I don't care what your retort is, because I was polite on both occasions I e-mailed you. It appears the one with the chip on their shoulder is you. You assailed me with your cheap shots at me being rude. You are equally rude for not replying to my e-mail. Perhaps you would like to inform readers of this thread about the nature of my disposition. For your information I declined the job at the college because of your deceptive attitude and negativity on the outset. Like bees averse to vinegar I will eat my honey in peace, far away from you. |
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Mandrews1985
Joined: 22 Apr 2012
Posts: 69
Location: Daegu, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:17 am Post subject: Re: @mandrews1985 |
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| Elegantstatue wrote: |
Well at least I separated the chaff from the weeds. Europeans and Asians know some weeds contain medicinal properties. I don't know the Latin classifications for them, but I have eaten weeds.
As for my abrasive or confrontational attitude that is for you to interpret or misinterpret, but at least I discovered you are chaff, and not a weed. And if your mind serves you correctly, I did e-mail you but you never replied. You have a guile nature at best, and I don't care what your retort is, because I was polite on both occasions I e-mailed you. It appears the one with the chip on their shoulder is you. You assailed me with your cheap shots at me being rude. You are equally rude for not replying to my e-mail. Perhaps you would like to inform readers of this thread about the nature of my disposition. For your information I declined the job at the college because of your deceptive attitude and negativity on the outset. Like bees averse to vinegar I will eat my honey in peace, far away from you. |
Hi,
I haven't received any messages from you so you should probably check your sentbox before you commence devouring honey and weeds... and chaff?
I find it hard to believe that you failed to send a message on here to me, twice.
For future reference:
1. Click username of user you'd like to contact.
2. Click 'PM'
3. Double check the username is correct, or click 'find a username' to search again.
4. Once comfirmed the recipient is correct, and you are sure, decide on an appropriate subject.
Having completed steps 1-4 you are now ready to write a message!
5. Type message.
6. Finally, and this is the difficult part, make sure to click 'Submit' rather than 'Preview'. If you happen to click preview, dont worry, all is not lost! Simply scroll down and you'll see the 2 options again. Remember the key is 'Submit'.
jiāyoú! |
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JoeKing
Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Zhejiang_Man wrote: |
Good explanation, Kev.
Now, how about explaining the rationale of the (US) expression; "I could care less!"
I understand the (original) British version; "I couldn't care less!", meaning one cares so little about the subject, it is not possible to care to a smaller degree.
However, if one could care less, then one currently cares about the subject to significant degree, yes? |
You Brits drive me crazy on this one. It's not a "US expression", and there is not an "original British version." There is simply one expression that makes sense for speakers of the English language, and one that does not.
Yes, I agree that clearly the expression "I could care less" makes no sense, and yes many(but not most) Americans use it - it bugs me too! But hey, is it really enough to get your knickers in a twist over? The USA has about 315 million people, and the vast majority say "I couldn't care less".
And while we are on the subject of terms that needlessly get the English knickers in a twist, let's talk about the use of the word "soccer". Seems Brits not only coined the term but were pretty much okay with using it interchangeably with "football" up until around 1980, when for some reason they objected to us calling our new league the North American Soccer League. Something about associating American use of the word with alleged "American imperialism and cultural hegemony." Sometimes I think you guys have a chip on your shoulder.
"A game of two names: Historians reveal why America calls the game that the rest of the world calls football 'soccer' - and find the British are to blame"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2657548/A-game-two-names-Historians-reveal-America-calls-football-soccer-British-blame.html |
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Zhejiang_Man
Joined: 23 Aug 2012
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Location: Zhejiang
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| You Brits drive me crazy on this one. It's not a "US expression", and there is not an "original British version." ...... But hey, is it really enough to get your knickers in a twist over? |
1. I am not British.
2. You are wrong.
3. It was a 'tongue in cheek' chaff at (American) Kev and, besides, I go 'commando'!
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm
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A bit of history first: the original expression, of course, was I couldn’t care less, meaning “it is impossible for me to have less interest or concern in this matter, since I am already utterly indifferent”. It is originally British. The first record of it in print I know of is in 1901, in a story published both in the Church Standard and the Sunday Magazine. It seems to have reached the US in the late 1940s and to have become popular in the latter part of that decade. The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only there. It may have begun to be used in the early 1960s, though it turns up in a written form only in 1966.
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JoeKing
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| You Brits drive me crazy on this one. It's not a "US expression", and there is not an "original British version." ...... But hey, is it really enough to get your knickers in a twist over? |
1. I am not British.
2. You are wrong.
3. It was a 'tongue in cheek' chaff at (American) Kev and, besides, I go 'commando'!
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm
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A bit of history first: the original expression, of course, was I couldn’t care less, meaning “it is impossible for me to have less interest or concern in this matter, since I am already utterly indifferent”. It is originally British. The first record of it in print I know of is in 1901, in a story published both in the Church Standard and the Sunday Magazine. It seems to have reached the US in the late 1940s and to have become popular in the latter part of that decade. The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only there. It may have begun to be used in the early 1960s, though it turns up in a written form only in 1966.
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Okay, I will cop to being partially, technically wrong. If the phrase is only found here, I guess that does make it a "US expression". My larger point was that it's not the most prevalent of the two options used by Americans. Sorry that I assumed you are British - it's probably because it was a Brit (a real twit who even other Brits disliked) that showed me that (admittedly funny)video four years ago.
By the way, that is a pretty interesting article you linked to, but then again, I am a geek for stuff like that. It actually almost defends the use of "could care less".
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| In these cases people have tried to apply logic, and it has failed them. Attempts to be logical about I could care less also fail. Taken literally, if one could care less, then one must care at least a little, which is obviously the opposite of what is meant. It is so clearly logical nonsense that to condemn it for being so (as some commentators have done) misses the point. The intent is obviously sarcastic — the speaker is really saying, “As if there was something in the world that I care less about”. |
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