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ssjup81



Joined: 15 Jun 2009
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Could use some opinions Reply with quote

Hi all. So, about two or three weeks ago, I had a very small fender bender, if you could call it that. I was backing out of the parking lot at the conbini and tapped, barely, a parked car in the side parking area of the lot. I backed up so far because I didn't feel I had enough space in front of me to start turning in fear of tapping the car in the space next to me.

Of course the cops were called and stuff. We swapped information, the norm. When the police were investigating, they were having a tough time even finding where I'd bumped the other guy's car. It took forever to even find the scratch on mine (even in the sunlight) and the same with his car, but to be fair, it was night and they were using their flashlights, but unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't notice or see it. They found the scratch, no dents on the bumper or anything since I was going super slow anyway since I was backing out.

His insurance company is now saying that I have to pay for the repairs, understandable, it was my fault and I'm not going to deny that fact. I misjudged the distance, but they want me to shell out ¥80,000 for a blue scratch on a light-colored car that's barely noticeable unless you have bionic eyes or know exactly where to look for it. My insurance could pay this, but that'll cause my insurance to go up and I personally don't want this and feel that ¥80,000 is beyond excessive.

I'm not even sure what I should be asking here....I guess I'm venting, but has anyone ever been in this situation? Even in the US I've never had this type of experience, so this is new for me. I guess I'm a bit perturbed because up until this point, I've never had anything negative on my driving record in my nearly 16 years of driving, and now I'll probably have some type of a negative on my record....well, for Japan anyway.

Could this be a case where I'm being screwed over because I'm a foreigner? I don't like to think about that type of thing and not the type to think that anything negative that happens is because I'm a foreigner and everyone is out to discriminate against me....or could the other party just be greedy?
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Maitoshi



Joined: 04 May 2014
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Location: 何処でも

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even for small stuff, it can get quite pricey, particularly since they need to match the paint and likely need to paint a whole panel to make it look like nothing ever happened. As you admit fault, chalk this up to experience and try to be extra cautious so that you don't have to worry oh this kind of stuff too often. 80,000¥ in 16 years? I say you've gotten off cheaply. Just my 2 yen, though Smile
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I was including my US time too. I've only been driving in Japan for almost two years now. Maybe about 1 1/2 years.

Oh and I found out that they want to remove the entire bumper, hence the price I suppose. Seems it would be cheaper to paint it than to remove and replace the bumper.
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Big_H



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was your paint that got onto theirs, couldn't you (or they) use some paint polish to take it out? It's cheaper than dirt.

Then again that is if the damage really is as little as you'd mentioned
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mitsui



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were told the higher price. They don`t care how much it costs you.
If you just hit a wall (as I have done) you could pay less.
More if you get a new bumper or less if it is just a paint job.

I paid 40,000 when I hit some frozen snow and made a dent. It
cost me 40,000 and that was a rock bottom price.
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think they're going to use much independent judgement, do anyone a favour and NOT do things by the book, regardless of cost (=just profit for the insurers)? Welcome to Japan! Smile
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_H wrote:
If it was your paint that got onto theirs, couldn't you (or they) use some paint polish to take it out? It's cheaper than dirt.

Then again that is if the damage really is as little as you'd mentioned
It is super small. Even the car company I lease the car from was shocked over the price for the small damage. Even when looking over my car they had a tough time finding the scratch and it was day time. Early afternoon. The sun at its highest and brightest. If you kneel and look you can find it, though.

Also, when the incident happened, I called up the friend I had just finished visiting, just in case I wouldn't understand the Japanese used as I'd never been in the situation before. She saw it too, once kneeling down to find the scratch on his car. Super small. She was shocked over the ¥80,000 thing too. "For a small scratch?!"
fluffyhamster wrote:
You think they're going to use much independent judgement, do anyone a favour and NOT do things by the book, regardless of cost (=just profit for the insurers)? Welcome to Japan! Smile
Yeah, that sounds about right. Some of his paint is on mine too, but despite the light color, you still have to look for it to find it or either kneel and get really close to it. Unless you're looking for it or OCD or at height level with a car's bumper, I'm sure your average person wouldn't blink an eye to it.

Like I was saying a while ago, I couldn't see this happening entirely back in the US as it would be an inconvenience for both parties.
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