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Sashadroogie · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject:

Most of your problems with what I have contributed to this thread have been based on your own interpretations, or rather, misinterpretations. Your personal digs, though, could only have had flaming as your goal, no matter how artlessly you try to obscure that now.

buravirgil · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:27 pm Post subject:

Sashadroogie · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject:

Again with the pseudo-academic citations.

Your poor grasp of the phrase 'my dear boy' is quite astonishing, though. And it is well-nigh impossible to see how your own highly personal definition of chauvinism can be exemplified by any of my contributions.

Still, at least now we know for certain that your intention here was not to add to the discussion of IELTS really.

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

I think you're both as bad as each other and couldn't care less if Sash whacks Bura with her handbag and Bura uses knuckledusters.

I will say one thing though and that is that it is quite likely (given that the forums today have been extremely quiet) posters are being deterred from doing so for fear of being set upon by two people who don't know when to stop.

You are poisoning the atmosphere and ruining the site for others.

buravirgil · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:03 pm Post subject:

I just woke up...I had stayed up pretty late to pursue the detail Sasha and I did.

Psuedo-academic citation? No. I asked you to cite, from the thread, the basis for a claim about personal digs and you haven't because you can't. "My dear boy" in a context of argument and dissension is patronizing, condescending, and offensive and was meant so. And it is statements and claims like that by which I mean you don't proceed in good faith.

I didn't flame you. I corrected what I believe to be a harmful, summative conclusion and challenged you for something more substantial. If I achieved that will not likely be agreed by yourself, or others for that matter, but that's not my concern. Qualifying Chinese learners as "most are blissfully unaware" was patently condescending as ANY population of learners is a spectrum.

Lugwash, taking the pulse of an entire online community to indict Sasha and myself is simply not possible. And what's funny is that your own commentary is possessed with a condemning flourish of a sort you claim to avoid.

Like Moe of the Three Stooges having arrived to gouge eyes and bonk heads. A contentious dialogue between Sasha and yourself is evidenced as often as any found. I elect to take them "off your hands" for a little while and your response smacks of near jealousy.

Laughing

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

My point is reinforced.

buravirgil · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:27 am Post subject:

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

OK you asked for it. Yes Sash is condescending and sneering and lurks on the forum to leap out at unsuspecting posters and savage them. You on the other hand are a consummate pontificator not vastly removed from Will Self, the difference being you also sneer and insult people personally as indeed you just did with me.

The point that was reinforced? You don't know when to stop.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:40 am Post subject:

Buravirgil, you have contributed nothing to this thread, mainly because you know nothing about what an IELTS examiner does. I, on the other hand, have addressed the OP with relevant information. There was nothing offensive or dangerous in my posts. If you feel that there were comments offensive to the Chinese people, then, please, report this to the Mods. They have procedures in place for that. They don't need you, or any other sock, to do their job for them. Similarly, they have procedures for posters who target others, flame or derail threads etc.

Not sure what the policy on 'thread sittiing' is, but I think that characterizes what you are doing here. For all you criticise others for it...

buravirgil · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:31 am Post subject:

What's going on here? I'm being tag-teamed. Ref! I "asked for it"? Where are you? In a bar? What have you done? Given me a figurative fat lip? Self makes a good living doesn't he? Damn him!

Where did I insult you personally? Cite it. Versus you criticizing Sasha and myself as poisonous and ruining the site? Laughing

And ruining it for everyone? Laughing

How does one sneer with text? Laughing

Sasha, saying most Chinese students are "blissfully unaware" is ignorant, and somewhat offensive, but not dangerous. I called out the language in a framing you're not one to abide-- that you're wrong. And that you parroted a phrase involved in the training as a basis of your misinforming "dialogue".

But you defended yourself pretty well. We just don't agree. Citing conventions for what students must prepare is more valuable than claiming, "Learn to speak 'in the abstract.'"

In my opinion. And that's what I expressed. And it is relevant. That's my story. I don't tell people what jobs the moderators have. I don't presume.

Mr. Kalgukshi · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:45 am Post subject:

One looks at the title and then reads the narrative and says, "Huh?"

One then locks the thread with the warning that if this kind of thing continues on other threads, some of you will not.