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GEMS - how does this job description look?
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thomas_pynchon



Joined: 01 Jul 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:27 pm    Post subject: GEMS - how does this job description look? Reply with quote

Any folks with experience working with this or similar IEPs? Its a four month contract, details can be seen here:

http://www.gemsedsolutions.com/vacancies-available

25 teachers, about 25 students/class with low level English. They said it would be a visit/work visa.

What would you expect in terms of pay for this type of contract?

Thanks
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Visit/work visa" is a euphemism for a business visa. You would be an illegal.
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SheikMilkShake



Joined: 02 Jul 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you, Scot47, keep saying this, Illegal Business visa


If the sponsor arranged a visa and let this man work in KSA, in case of any problem, mind you, the sponsor would be punished first these days.

In the worst case scenario, he would be told to leave KSA.
I guess it is quite ok to work on any visa arranged by yr employer.
You cannot open a bank account but the best thing is you could leave , as soon as you get paid, without telling your sponsor.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear ShakeMilkShake,

" . . . . . the sponsor would be punished first these days."

Ah, there IS a Bizarro* Saudi Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

* For those unfamiliar with DC Comics: "In popular culture "Bizarro World" has come to mean a situation or setting which is weirdly inverted or opposite of expectations."

Regards,
John
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it is only a 4 month contract, I don't think it much matters whether it is a legal work visa or not. Obviously an employer wouldn't bother with the expensive procedure for this short term. It would give the OP a taste of life in Saudi and he would see if he wants to keep trying to find a longer term job there with an iqama.

VS
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many a teacher has found himself in detention cells even when it was thought that everything was legally in order. If you want to come for the quick money, most likely you will be OK, but there is a risk. There are lots of teachers here on Business visas, however a business visa could be just one more of the variety of things that gets a teacher in trouble and generally there are a whole host of things that can go wrong.
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thomas_pynchon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to me that this will be rural to the economic city on the Red Sea, what I'm more concerned about is 25 students/class for a 4 month intensive English program. That sounds like a sweat shop to me and could be a nightmare. What would people expect for remuneration for this type of deal?
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coder



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thomas_pynchon wrote:
What I'm more concerned about is 25 students/class for a 4 month intensive English program. That sounds like a sweat shop to me and could be a nightmare. What would people expect for remuneration for this type of deal?

Twenty-four students is average for many classrooms in KSA---some teachers have even more per class. As for salary, you'd have to apply to see what you're worth (if offered a position).
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coder



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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