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Ludwig

I came across the website of this rather frightening organisation:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

They seem like a nice bunch of moderate fellows...

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

vre · Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 371

hehehe excellent! well done B.D! It's just a shame that my colleague was eating her lunch as I opened it! Anyway, it was well worth it. Dont you think, Ludwig?

Ludwig

kimo · Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 668

Take a look at some of the PNAC founding members. They are the people who put the Neo into Neo-Conservative. See if there is a pattern. These names ought to ring a bell:

Dick Cheney - Vice President of the United States. CEO of Halliburton (no-bid Iraq construction contract winner) just before that.
Jeb Bush - Governor of State of Florida, George W. Bush's brother
Donald Rumsfeld - Number one man, Pentagon
Paul Wolfowitz - Number two man, Pentagon
Dan Quayle - Former VP, USA
Steven Forbes - Media Magnate
William Bennett - Author, "The Book of Virtues", notable for his $1.4 million gambling debt.
Elliot Abrams - Convicted of lying to Congress about the Iran-Contra affair, then pardoned by Bush I, installed by Bush II in the National Security Council staff as a senior director for democracy
I. Lewis Libby - Cheney's Chief of Staff, Lawyer for Int'l money launderer, Marc Rich.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

All of these people have George Bush's ear and are/were well placed in the government or media. And none of them have reputations as moderates. I agree, amazingly, with Ludwig. These people are scary as they espouse militaristic, expansionist policies.

http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Here's what they said pre- 9/11/2001:

vre · Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 371

It has to be said that that website is very disturbing! especially their justifications for various acts.

gugelhupf · Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek

For a bit of light entertainment www.republicans.org is worth a click as well.

Mark-O · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject:

Ludwig,

I couldn't help but notice from your ever-changing wardrobe of avatars, your latest addition. The size '4' label, assuming it is a photo of your own, puts you at a rather petite and slender size this summer - you're going to look great on the beaches of South Africa! Wink

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

kimo · Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 668

BD, do you alone determine what sites that people may offer up for us to see? Is there something about this site that you don't like? As Ludwig said, ignore it if it doesn't suit your taste.

Anyway, perhaps, Ludwig chose this site because this group, The Project for a New American Century (PNAC), was mentioned in another thread. As many PNAC members are in high-level positions in the United States government or in a position to influence decisions by the United States government (see above), I would hardly agree with you that ole Ludwig is merely trolling.

These are the guys who led us to war in Iraq. They clearly stated prior to 9/11/2001, that they so intended it. As the election in the United States draws nearer, one could expect that this group will come under even heavier scrutiny.

http://www.pnac.info/blog/archives/000043.html

Ludwig · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:17 am Post subject:

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

once again · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815

Ludwig said

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kimo · Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 668

I still want to thank ole Ludwig for starting this thread on PNAC. Again, this is not some group composed of unknowns meeting in Geneva. These are well-placed Americans with an agenda.