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What happens if you miss the residency permit deadline?

 
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aprose1977



Joined: 13 May 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject: What happens if you miss the residency permit deadline? Reply with quote

Hi. I'm probably being a bit pessimistic but I am a bit worried about missing the 30 day deadline for the residence permit. In people's experience, is there any flexibility if you are a day or two late getting the permit to take to the PSB?

All the documents are ready for the school to apply for the permit but for the medical certificate. I did the test on the day after I got here and asked for them to be sent to my school international office. Unfortunately the school have not received them and in my jet-lagged state I've just realised that I transposed two numbers in the address so it may have gone astray. I was wondering if anyone had experience of missing this deadline, and if so what happened?
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge as long as the paperwork is lodged before the expiry of the final day then you are fine.
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find????
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, did you go to the medical check without someone from the school's foreign office? If it's getting close to the deadline, perhaps you can return to the hospital/clinic with someone from the foreign affairs office of your school and ask for a reprint of the lost report. I'd be a bit worried if your FAO isn't staying on top of this. Did you arrive on a z-visa?

Yes, as long as the Entry/Exit Bureau of the PSB has the application for your Residence Permit within the 30 days, you are ok. On the other hand, if you have a new or ignorant FAO at your school, it could lead to trouble for you. If it comes down to a couple of days before the deadline, insist on someone going with you to the Exit Entry Bureau and ask the assigned officer for advice on how to proceed. Just making a stink should get the FAO (of your school) on the case. Remember, there is usually no excuse that "my school screwed up and I trusted them," so this is one area where I don't have qualms about seeming too difficult to work with.

How much time do you have left? Usually medical reports are sent within a week in my experience.
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Listerine



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overstaying your visa by even one day should be avoided.

Talk to your FAO. Try to get them to contact someone at the PSB. Depending on all kinds of factors, most notably the school's guanxi (favors owed / connections) and the location (some cities are much harder than others to bend the rules) the Public Security Bureau office has some alternatives to just giving you the bum's rush out of the country. At my last school the FAO was uber-slack and seemingly didn't start processing one teacher's RP until the last week. Inevitably they ran out of time....a trip to the PSB the day the Z visa expired had it converted to an additional 30 day "Humanitarian" Visa. RP paperwork was completed 10 days or so later and everything went ahead without further hitch. China being China this won't be an option for many, and obviously the FT was shitting his pants in the meantime should something go wrong, so it's not really an ideal situation.

Better to hear of possible alternatives directly from the horse's mouth rather than hopefully waiting for positive replies on here.

PS = Medical check results (at least the front page - the most important one stating you are in good health) can be reissued for a fee, around 10~20rmb from memory. That's all the PSB needs. If you're really worried head back to the hospital and get another print out. They'll do it while you wait.
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aprose1977



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I should still have time - I have about 20 days until the deadline - but I just discovered the mistake (entirely mine) on the receipt for the postal courier so wanted to know what the options were and the consequences in a worst/case scenario and I can't trace it through the courier. I guess the answer is talk to the waiban and let them know there could be a problem.
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have filed your FEC application and your Z visa is going to expire while you wait for your FEC, you can get a temporary stay permit. Take some documents showing your FEC is processing, and they will give you a temporary stay permit.

If your FEC application has not been submitted within a month of you arriving, go home and find a new school to work at.
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water rat



Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newmansone wrote:
The fact that you are here mentioning/asking this issue only shows premeditation. There is NO REASON to be late whatsoever. You admit knowing the deadline of your expiration but feel, "hey, I'm special and the rules should be bent according to my will." Mistakes, delays, holidays, etc. are all things that should have been taken into consideration It's that simple. On the other hand, the documents need to be submitted, NO LATER than the day before the expiration. Once they are accepted by the PSB, then you are find. So, you can go on the day before expiration and be okay. Going on the day of expiration is hilarious in my eyes. It expires at the stroke of midnight entering that day - not 5 AM or noon or 4:38 PM the afternoon of the day of expiration. Thus, you must submit, in full, the application and supporting materials no later than the day before what is noted as the expiration date of your resident permit.

There is no flexibility - why have an expiration date of it isn't going to be followed? Even more so, things are much more stringent now.

Look forward to fines, possible detention (unlikely), and being forced OUT OF CHINA to reapply for a new Z-Visa entry visa and then restart the Resident Permit process later.

What do you think would happen back home?


Don't take this person at all seriously. He's just a troll that keeps reappearing in various guises. Just wants to get a rise out of you, or maybe one for himself.
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3701 W.119th



Joined: 26 Feb 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

newmansone wrote:
NOBODY here knows anything and anyone who listens to, accepts, or let alone asks for advice is an idiot.


Why do you post here then?

You seem like a deeply unhappy individual.
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water rat



Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3701 W.119th wrote:
newmansone wrote:
NOBODY here knows anything and anyone who listens to, accepts, or let alone asks for advice is an idiot.


Why do you post here then?

You seem like a deeply unhappy individual.


Yes, he's unhappy, but he's no individual. He's been tons of posters. He just wants to throw us off with that 'hasn't posted in three years remark'. Clever!!!!
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newmansone



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still waiting for this supposed evidence?!
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been for a check without the FAO hovering and usually there's the whole complement of new FTs getting the checks on the same day.
Even if OP is the only FT, he/she should expect the FAO to fix any problems including going over the limit.
If OP is a newbe it is normal to stress over every detail. Go talk to the FAO today!
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ water rat:You mean a multi-personality poster? Would they even know they are posting as one of their other personalities. Would it be like the
"3 Keyboards of Eve".
I have been for med checks by myself and it is imperative that the address is right. They may be able to reproduce the paperwork and re issue but probably cost a little more.
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Lancy Bloom



Joined: 23 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are directed to an office where they will tell you that you have 3 days to leave China. Then you will get a telephone call on your cellphone telling you where to make the drop (bank address) Then you will be welcomed back into the country by the good people who occupy the office that is equipped with a paper shredder. Same thing in all countries. No big deal. You pay your fine, tax or juice. Make sure you dress well and show respect. Don not yell and scream.
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newmansone



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
Even if OP is the only FT, he/she should expect the FAO to fix any problems including going over the limit.


This is priceless.
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