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tvik
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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? |
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| What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? Distance or otherwise |
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suphanburi
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A real MATESOL will take you 3-4 semesters and cost $8-15k.
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naturegirl321
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? |
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| tvik wrote: |
| What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? Distance or otherwise |
What do you consider cheap and fast? In other words, what's your budget? What's your timeline?
Anyway, for starters, try an Internet search on best value universities colleges for sites indicating education costs for US universities. You'd then have to check the unis individually to see which ones offer an MA in TESOL.
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| suphanburi wrote: |
Photoshop.
A real MATESOL will take you 3-4 semesters and cost $8-15k. |
This.
An MA is a rigorous graduate degree program, not an advanced TEFL certificate. Cheap, fast, and easy are not adjectives that are ever used in the same sentence as MA TESOL. |
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nomad soul
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| Cheap, fast, and easy are not adjectives that are ever used in the same sentence as MA TESOL. |
C'mon, there's gotta be some hot Groupon deals out there for legit MA in TESOL programs, right?  |
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PC Parrot
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An MA is a rigorous graduate degree program, |
Rigorous compared to a 4 week TEFL course maybe. But it's hardly rigorous compared to an MSc in Maths or Physics |
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psychedelicacy
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: Re: What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? |
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| tvik wrote: |
| What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? Distance or otherwise |
It would be helpful to know your nationality, as fees (for on-campus courses, at least) tend to be considerably more for international students.
If you are from the UK, the University of Sunderland offers an MA in TESOL for £4,050 for Home/EU candidates and is one year in duration. Can't say for sure, but I suspect that's about as cheap as is possible. Manchester Metropolitan University, meanwhile, offers an on-campus MA Teaching English as a Foreign Language for £5,490, likewise one year long. Again, though, these are essentially twice as much for international students.
Links:
http://www2.mmu.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught/2015/12395/
http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/courses/educationandsociety/postgraduate/tesol/
There are probably many more, but these are the ones I accidentally came across when looking at non-ELT post-grad options. Had I still been interested in ELT, pursuing one of these might have been a temptation. |
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esl_prof
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| PC Parrot wrote: |
| Rigorous compared to a 4 week TEFL course maybe. But it's hardly rigorous compared to an MSc in Maths or Physics |
It depends on whether your program is housed in the department of linguistics or the school of education. Serious linguistics can be just as rigorous as mathematics. |
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esl_prof
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PC Parrot
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| Rigorous compared to a 4 week TEFL course maybe. But it's hardly rigorous compared to an MSc in Maths or Physics |
It depends on whether your program is housed in the department of linguistics or the school of education. Serious linguistics can be just as rigorous as mathematics. |
I agree that a linguistics degree could become very rigorous, but we are not talking about a linguistics degree. We are talking about an MA TESOL.
In an MA TESOL course, I highly doubt that tutors are going to insist that their students delve deeply into Wittgenstein, for example. If some choose to do so, that's most probably their preference. But it's unlikely that it would be compulsory.
And if I am wrong, and it can be as rigorous as you suggest, then it is not typical of an MA TESOL, and it is not necessary - unlike the rigour of an MSc in Physics or Maths, or Linguistics. In those subjects, there is no dodging it. In TESOL, there is. |
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rtm
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: What is the cheapest, fastest MA TESOL? |
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| psychedelicacy wrote: |
| If you are from the UK, the University of Sunderland offers an MA in TESOL for £4,050 for Home/EU candidates and is one year in duration. Can't say for sure, but I suspect that's about as cheap as is possible. Manchester Metropolitan University, meanwhile, offers an on-campus MA Teaching English as a Foreign Language for £5,490, likewise one year long. Again, though, these are essentially twice as much for international students. |
Likewise, in the US there are many options for doing an MA TESOL for free or nearly free. Many universities have intensive English programs, and MA TESOL students can teach a couple classes there in exchange for a tuition waiver and stipend that is often enough to cover basic living expenses. Citizenship is often irrelevant. |
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nomad soul
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| Hmm... All this talk about rigor. However, since the OP is interested in a "cheap-n-quick" MA in TESOL, I suspect he/she appreciates "easy" as well. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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| PC Parrot wrote: |
| esl_prof wrote: |
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| Rigorous compared to a 4 week TEFL course maybe. But it's hardly rigorous compared to an MSc in Maths or Physics |
It depends on whether your program is housed in the department of linguistics or the school of education. Serious linguistics can be just as rigorous as mathematics. |
I agree that a linguistics degree could become very rigorous, but we are not talking about a linguistics degree. We are talking about an MA TESOL.
In an MA TESOL course, I highly doubt that tutors are going to insist that their students delve deeply into Wittgenstein, for example. If some choose to do so, that's most probably their preference. But it's unlikely that it would be compulsory.
And if I am wrong, and it can be as rigorous as you suggest, then it is not typical of an MA TESOL, and it is not necessary - unlike the rigour of an MSc in Physics or Maths, or Linguistics. In those subjects, there is no dodging it. In TESOL, there is. |
The prereq for an MA (or M.Sc) in Maths is an undergraduate degree in maths. And the prereq for an MA in linguistics (theoretical linguistics) is an undergrad in theoretical linguistics.
The prereq for an MA in TESOL is an undergraduate degree- ***PREFERABLY*** (as in, not absolutely) in a language-related area.
It's comparing apples and oranges. The TESOL program is a professional program (one designed to enter a profession). An MA in maths is not. An MA TESOL, whether through a linguistics department, through an education faculty or a stand-alone outside of any particular faculty (meaning it's an inter-faculty program) is an INITIAL teacher program. It's really closer to a PGCE in the UK (AKA a consecutive B.Ed or teacher's credential) than it is to a masters in Maths (or English literature, or History, or Music etc). You have a target audience and a subject. You are expected to already know your subject (based on having a 'teachable' in it [which may or may not actually be an undergraduate degree in the area]). You are taught how to teach that subject to a specific audience (like you do a degree in applied sciences, but did a bunch of electives in maths. You decide you want to be a math teacher, and go to a faculty of education. Your first teachable is math. Your second is science- just because you'd rather teach math. You become a high school math teacher.). The teaching subject of an MA TESOL is English language (ESL / EFL / EAP etc) and the target audience is (usually) university students.
Another area like that is the MBA. There are MBA programs that are set up for people without degrees in business. There are creative writing MFAs for people without undergraduate degrees in creative writing (or even English literature).
And BTW, in at least some countries, you do a B.Sc and then a PhD. The M.Sc is an alternative exit strategy. Humanities and Social Sciences don't have that system, IME. |
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esl_prof
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| I agree that a linguistics degree could become very rigorous, but we are not talking about a linguistics degree. We are talking about an MA TESOL. |
Point well taken. But, then again, I graduated from a lightweight program that, while not too hard, was neither cheap nor quick. |
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