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Hatcher
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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: Anyone hire over age 65? Indian background? |
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I have a couple of friends who are over age 65 and would like to work here. Does anyone know somewhere they could work?
How about a UK citizen of Indian background? |
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newmansone
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:12 am Post subject: |
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First of all - you're 5-10 years off the legal working age and not from a proper country.
Then again, what is "Indian Background" ? Can't say Indian race or nationality? |
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xaile
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| he said UK citizen and Indian. can't you read? |
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water rat
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| newmansone wrote: |
First of all - you're 5-10 years off the legal working age and not from a proper country.
Then again, what is "Indian Background" ? Can't say Indian race or nationality? |
As always your remarks are completely spot off.
First, is it five or is it ten years 'off' [sic] (I guess you meant 'over'). You're such a stickler for 'The Law', don't you know? That's quite a large margin for error - five years. A seventy year-old might get a visa, according to you, if the age limit were 65, and the immigration official were in a good mood.
Second, not from A proper country!? Do you mean that India is some rogue state unrecognized by the UN? Or don't you understand how definite and indefinite articles work? Either way, you're showcasing your ignorance.
To quote your absitively splendiferous self:
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| Then again, what is "Indian Background" ? Can't say Indian race or nationality? |
Why is 'race' or 'nationality' preferable? Just what is your point? - I mean other than your penchant for making dithering remarks of absolutely no consequence...
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The_Kong
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone hire over age 65? Indian background? |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
I have a couple of friends who are over age 65 and would like to work here. Does anyone know somewhere they could work?
How about a UK citizen of Indian background? |
Hey Hatcher,
As if it needed to be said but how about we just ignore our ignorant little friend here?
To answer your question.
65 or over would be difficult for someone new coming in. Most places seem to have an age limit of between 60-65, but there seems to be some flexibility in two cases.
1) The person passes the limit while in China and is simply renewing a residence permit.
2) The person finds a school in an area of China where the rules are more, shall we say, flexible.
If I were your friend and really wanted to come to China I would start focusing on Universities/Colleges in the North or West of China. Although, just sending out a lot of resumes will likely net better results. You never know until you try. I would just tell him to be upfront and list his age along with other basic info and a picture on his CV when sending them out.
Your friends will face some discrimination being of Indian decent, but that is mostly from the language mills that only care about face (literally), and you probably wouldn't want anyone you know to be working at one of those places anyways.
Unfortunately, being over 65 and of Indian decent may be tougher sell than one or the other on its own. |
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3701 W.119th
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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newmansome gets a few bites! He's going to fill his sock tonight.
Lots of British/US/South African Indians teaching here. It's the passport that counts, rather than the ethnic origin. The 65+ thing could be an issue though. Depends how badly they need a teacher/which province it is/etc.
Nothing to lose by trying though. |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| newmansone wrote: |
not from a proper country.
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^ ^ How wonderfully and anachronistically quaint... 
OP, as has been said, it's the passport that counts rather than the country of national origin (technically), but yes, as has also been said, being non-"Caucasian" and being over 65 will definitely both be barriers. As unfortunate as it is, racial or "color" discrimination as well as "age-ism" are very real factors in China.
Still, there are many from the Philippines and many other countries who do find work teaching there. In spite of the usual "UK/ US/Australia/NZ/ Canada passports" requirement, there is too much demand and too little supply (in some places and some sectors of the "industry") for all employers to be as choosy as they might like to be.
I had a friend / fellow teacher in Xinjiang who was 60 or 61 when he came over in 2010 (and he was told at the time that the official cut-off was 55, true or not), and since getting a foot in the door he has been working in China ever since (was able to get a better gig in a University in Lianyungang after two years in Xinjiang)... but, he's as white as paper and though he had no teaching experience prior to coming to China, he was a retired Solicitor for the Supreme Court of England and Wales (!) and definitely had the "rumpled professor" look to him.
As mentioned, your friends might have better chances in more remote provinces like Xinjiang, Gansu, Inner Mongolia etc. Good luck to them.
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| water rat wrote: |
| absitively splendiferous |
Well spoken! |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my list of provinces that are regarded as poorer.
Gansu Guizhou Guangxi Ningxia Qinghai Sichuan Tibet Xinjiang Yunnan
Overseas aid is often directed to these places and I'm working on a view that hiring a 'non-standard' FT could be made easier as a result.
The OP is non-standard candidate and should look to the places that could find FTs hard to locate.
Another point is to look for state unis only. Language schools are selling a 'look' to the parents and that look is usually Caucasian.
Seems strange to me that learning English because of its international value and then sidelining its international result ie non-Caucasian native speakers, is very strange.
Also look for unis that seek international students. Dalian Medical U has a sizeable contingent of Indian students and the entire course is taught in English.
Although I'm Caucasian I'm at the top end of the age bracket and am looking at the above nine provinces to get back in the door.
Please keep us posted OP.
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RW8677
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Anyone hire over age 65? Indian background? |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
I have a couple of friends who are over age 65 and would like to work here. Does anyone know somewhere they could work?
How about a UK citizen of Indian background? |
The over 65 thing will me limiting but not exclusive. The Indian thing depends on degree - this is not a politically correct country, colour matters, simple fact is, George W Bush would get most jobs long before Obama, Bush's retardation would only be a secondary consideration. Accent is also a consideration. A 65 year old 3rd Generation Brindian of paler aspect has a far greater chance than his duskier counterpart who still has a sub continental twang |
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asiannationmc
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Bush's retardation would only be a secondary consideration. |
In China an endearing quality. |
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Mr. English
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| There is no age limit for working in China, and I am talking about Z visas, and of course one does not need a Z visa to work in China. There are people over 70 with Z visas. |
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asiannationmc
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| There are always exceptions but it is a very real requirement in Beijing to be under 60. |
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