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| How Many of Us are ESL/English Teachers? |
| Yes, I am an ESl teacher |
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77% |
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| Yes, I am an English teacher, but not ESL |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| I am an administrator of an ESL course (Now, get back to work!) |
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11% |
[ 2 ] |
| I am not an ESL/English teacher but I aspire to be |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| I used to be an ESL/English teacher but I am no longer (I wasn't cool enough to continue) |
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5% |
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| I am an ESL teacher groupie. (You people are cooler and sexier than fire fighters and I hate it that you are allowed to wear clothes! |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| I have no interest in ESL. I responded to this poll by accident. (DO I get a free toaster or what? |
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5% |
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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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Location: North Antarctica
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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:18 am Post subject: How Many of Us are ESL/English Teachers? |
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Has anyone done this recently? I realize that some of you haven't actually worked yet in "the field", and that some of you are in administration - Hey! That's cool! Just don't tell us your real names and where you live, and we won't kill you in your beds.-  And some of you are out of the game, retired or deceased, and still more of you (Hello Ladies! - Kissy kiss) appreciate that ESL teachers are akin to Lorenzo Lamas in Renegade, going where we want an doing as we please, helping people and wandering off before they have a chance to thank us... but still I am curious as to which category you actually belong.
I think we ESL teachers are a breed apart. We're the dogs who wandered beyond the open gate and found freedom and magic, and only we truly understand how magnificently vast and varied the world is. I love it that unlike a prole who aspires to any job in his/her home country, but can't even get that! We, with a little experience, can pick and choose which country we'd like to live in, feel confident that a couple of dozen emailed CVs will do the trick, and go live wherever the bleeding heck we choose, and then go somewhere else entirely the next year!
Waxing lyrical I quote Chrissie Hynde: "Trapped in a world that they never made, but not me baby, I'm too precious! F*ck off!" |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash
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Hmmm. Not quite so easy to define who we are in all cases 
I work in situations where most (but not all) students (and faculty) are non-native speakers of English. Our courses are field-specific and high-level, and necessarily contain an element of EFL - but are essentially courses that are also taught in this field/level to native speakers of English in Anglophone countries.
We also work with practicing teachers on developing teaching skills in English.
Started out as a simple EFL teacher, but it's not so simple anymore.
Where's my category? |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014
Posts: 386
Location: Central China
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL teachers are akin to Lorenzo Lamas in Renegade |
Getting that reference (and enjoying it) makes me feel very old.
I'm 32. |
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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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Location: North Antarctica
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL teachers are akin to Lorenzo Lamas in Renegade |
Getting that reference (and enjoying it) makes me feel very old.
I'm 32. |
So there's no such thing as re-runs or CD packages? |
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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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Location: North Antarctica
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
Hmmm. Not quite so easy to define who we are in all cases
I work in situations where most (but not all) students (and faculty) are non-native speakers of English. Our courses are field-specific and high-level, and necessarily contain an element of EFL - but are essentially courses that are also taught in this field/level to native speakers of English in Anglophone countries.
We also work with practicing teachers on developing teaching skills in English.
Started out as a simple EFL teacher, but it's not so simple anymore.
Where's my category? |
You caught me out, just between us, I don't know everything. So carve your own niche. Tell us more but without personal details lest I come over there to borrow money. |
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Xie Lin
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
Posts: 731
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Water rat, you might consider better defining where EFL teachers should vote, since they are not mentioned. As it is, some may choose "English teacher other than ESL," while most may select the first category of "ESL teacher" as the best fit. 
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esl_prof
Joined: 30 Nov 2013
Posts: 2006
Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Where do I go to pick up my free toaster? |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014
Posts: 386
Location: Central China
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Don't get me wrong, water rat, it was a great reference! Made me smile.
I just meant that I hadn't thought about that show in donkeys. Used to watch it around my friends house when we about 12, on UTV. Good times. Completely forgot about it.
Back on topic - I'm an EFL teacher, but a new one (just 3 months or so). So far I love it. |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash
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I think it would be interesting to know the mix of ESL (teaching in Anglophone countries) and EFL teachers.
And for weirdos like me, maybe some sort of 'Related other; please describe below'?
You can alter the original poll, I think....if you want to, of course! |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| No category for dialectical materialism lecturer through English?! What sort of poll is this??? |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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I'm a former EFL teacher (22 years - 5 of which were as a teacher /administrator) but was an ESL teacher for another 12 years - up until this August, when I was drafted to be the interim ESL coordinator of the program that I had been teaching in at the community college here.
I hope to be able to get back to the classroom soon. I am not fond of paperwork and &^%$#(* meetings. 
Regards,
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Posts: 11454
Location: The real world
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| water rat wrote: |
| We, with a little experience, can pick and choose which country we'd like to live in, feel confident that a couple of dozen emailed CVs will do the trick, and go live wherever the bleeding heck we choose, and then go somewhere else entirely the next year! |
Not exactly... For instance, newbies and those with an unrelated degree and minimal experience hoping to head to the lucrative, exotic UAE teaching market quickly find out that's not gonna happen. Obviously, job seekers with relevant academic and TESOL credentials as well as a few years of experience have the most opportunities available to them worldwide. |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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| We, with a little experience, can pick and choose which country we'd like to live in, |
Not to rain on what may well be a pretty interesting and useful thread! But EFL teachers are also impacted by visa regulations. For example, regardless of quals and experience, it's near-impossible for non-EU member citizens to get into Western Europe as teachers. |
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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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Location: North Antarctica
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| spiral78 wrote: |
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| We, with a little experience, can pick and choose which country we'd like to live in, |
Not to rain on what may well be a pretty interesting and useful thread! But EFL teachers are also impacted by visa regulations. For example, regardless of quals and experience, it's near-impossible for non-EU member citizens to get into Western Europe as teachers. |
Western what now? Oh! You mean that place next to Poland full of white people and 7-11s. I go for more exotic locales. |
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water rat
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| water rat wrote: |
| We, with a little experience, can pick and choose which country we'd like to live in, feel confident that a couple of dozen emailed CVs will do the trick, and go live wherever the bleeding heck we choose, and then go somewhere else entirely the next year! |
Not exactly... For instance, newbies and those with an unrelated degree and minimal experience hoping to head to the lucrative, exotic UAE teaching market quickly find out that's not gonna happen. Obviously, job seekers with relevant academic and TESOL credentials as well as a few years of experience have the most opportunities available to them worldwide. |
When I said 'with a little experience' I was excluding newbies. And you can have UAE. I dislike dry, hot, flat, Islamic countries, or rather NOT a country but some emirates which are united somehow, and Arab. Other than that, I agree with you completely! |
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