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Dietary77
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 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: Looking to get started... |
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Me and my wife are 31. We have no degree and a 2 year old. We think we need a change in our life and heard we can teach overseas without a degree. We were wondering where we could teach without a degree?
My wife does have experience as an instructor and health educator. |
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nomad soul
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| Have either of you completed any university/college coursework? I ask because you'll be extremely limited as to where you can legally work without a BA; employer and/or government visa requirements can and do change. Plus, it will be even more challenging with a young child to care for. If you have some uni credits under your belt, it would be worth it to complete your degree before considering heading abroad. |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| If you have some uni credits under your belt, it would be worth it to complete your degree before considering heading abroad. |
Even if you have zero uni credits under your belt, it would still be worth it to complete your degrees before moving abroad. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Right on, esl_prof. And that would be a full BA degree and not a two-year associate's degree. |
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esl_prof
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| Right on, esl_prof. And that would be a full BA degree and not a two-year associate's degree. |
Indeed. While the prospects of pursuing a four-year degree program may seem a bit daunting, the reality is that this poses some unique opportunities for the OP as well. In contrast to the average prospective TEFLer who happens to have a degree in an unrelated field like, say, criminal justice or microbiology, the OP actually has the opportunity to choose a degree program and, possibly, teacher certification track with overseas teaching in mind that would make him quite competitive for a number of jobs (and salaries) that wouldn't even be open to someone with simply a BA plus 30-Day TESOL Cert. And, of course, one could accumulate quite a bit of experience doing things like tutoring international students or working as a paraprofessional in the public schools over the course of a four year degree, which would certainly enhance one's resume when applying for jobs after graduation. |
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spiral78
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I think you've received some extremely overly-optimistic information regarding what teaching abroad entails.
With no degrees and a child to support, your options are extremely limited, as already noted.
I can speak for the European region, where I've been for a long time. Not here, not as US citizens, no degrees, with a child. |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Looking to get started... |
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| Dietary77 wrote: |
Me and my wife are 31. We have no degree and a 2 year old. We think we need a change in our life and heard we can teach overseas without a degree. We were wondering where we could teach without a degree?
My wife does have experience as an instructor and health educator. |
Truth?
Effective with AEC integration in 2015 you can rule out ALL of east and southeast Asia for legal (defined as having a proper visa and the necessary permits) without a degree (visa and/or work permit requirements).
As Americans you can rule out western Europe due to visa issues.
Eastern Europe or western Asia may be an option for the short term.
I don't know about the current state of affairs in central and south America. There are usually visa issues so long term options may not be available and salaries certainly won't allow much in the way of savings.
Without a degree or some very specialized skills (driller for offshore oil rigs) your chances of employment abroad are near "0" and long term there is no future as visa rules continue to tighten.
Don't let the dream sellers sell you a worthless TEFL course with the dream of teaching and travel abroad. The days of tourist teachers and backpacker's with nothing more than a high school diploma and 30-day TEFL cert making it as "English Teachers" have long since ridden into the sunset.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:17 am Post subject: Re: Looking to get started... |
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| Dietary77 wrote: |
| ...heard we can teach overseas without a degree. |
What's the source of this info? A company that provides TEFL adventure courses? |
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