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scot47
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I still have daily deliveries by our local postman. Not, of course on the Sabbath, God forbid !
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veiledsentiments
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I get things most days too... 80% junk mail that goes directly in the trash... 15% concerning my elderly parent... 5% for me.
I can't imagine any credit education courses using the mails rather than the internet...
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BocaNY
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:18 am Post subject: |
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BTW... my advice is to just bite the bullet and get a distance/online degree from an accredited university - assuming that you plan to stay in this field. And if you have the time, energy and money, the DELTA also looks good on the CV. The more qualifications, the more options that you have.
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VS and others who have mentioned it, why do you think one should get the DELTA if they already have a MA?
I looked at the DELTA before I enrolled for my MA and saw that it covered exactly the same topics as the MA program. I would think it would be a waste of time and money not to mention the stress of doing a certification course when it's the same material as an MA program. |
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veiledsentiments
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Mainly because you are often dealing with employers who prefer one or the other. Those that come from an American system (and many American MAs are quite different from the DELTA) tend to prefer MAs and those that come from the British system prefer the CELTA/DELTA. You will hear plenty of not always polite debate about these two systems in the average Middle East faculty offices.  Personally after my years in the Gulf, I saw good and bad teachers out of both educational systems. (which is why I feel that teaching is an art, not a science... and the educational system tends to be moot)
The CELTA/DELTA is helpful for those who have an MA that is more theoretically based. For instance, I know British MA holders who basically had only written a couple short papers and a thesis on an esoteric subject... no practical classroom applications at all.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| Mainly because you are often dealing with employers who prefer one or the other. Those that come from an American system (and many American MAs are quite different from the DELTA) tend to prefer MAs and those that come from the British system prefer the CELTA/DELTA. |
This fuss about US vs UK degrees seems to be a sticking point among some teachers. I doubt Saudi employers---even direct-hire ones---have a preference; they're more concerned that the degree hail from an accredited university from one's home country and was completed on campus. Obviously, additional teacher training in the form of a supervised teaching practice is a plus.
Anyway, the Saudi government certainly has no qualms about sending its citizens to the US for TESOL and linguistics grad/PhD degrees---some of whom return to the Kingdom and into university admin and supervisory positions. |
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veiledsentiments
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Since this is the general branch, I was speaking more about the Gulf employers in general, not specifically Saudi, which tends to be the odd man out in so many areas.
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Voyeur
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| they're more concerned that the degree hail from an accredited university from one's home country and was completed on campus. |
Do employer's really care if an American has a UK degree or a Canadian has a US degree, etc? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| Voyeur wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| they're more concerned that the degree hail from an accredited university from one's home country and was completed on campus. |
Do employer's really care if an American has a UK degree or a Canadian has a US degree, etc? |
No, my statement is a bit misleading. Generally, English-speaking US, UK, Canadian.... accredited uni if you're an English speaker, and completed on campus unless your target country is the UAE.
But seriously... consider that anything about the applicant's degree that might come across as "off" to potential employers may hurt his/her chances for an interview. Keep in mind that for every advertised teaching opportunity, there can be hundreds of applicants, especially for the better positions. Therefore, competition is high; screeners have the luxury of passing over certain job seekers (based on review of their CVs/resumes) in favor of those whose academic credentials and experience are more of what employers expect. The exception is having a special or highly-desired skill set or knowledge that employers want. |
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